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waterboy222 03-04-2011 08:38 AM

Are there other options besides lifeline jackets?
 
Ive been lookin around on Google and havent found any racing jackets that seem to be of similar quality to the Lifeline brand.

Does anyone have experience with any brands besides them?

All i can seem to find are "high speed lifejackets, perfect for todays PWC's and performance bassboats" :lolhit:

pitts1313 03-04-2011 08:43 AM

I think mustang has a speed rated jacket. I don't know if it is race quality.

waterboy222 03-04-2011 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by pitts1313 (Post 3341918)
I think mustang has a speed rated jacket. I don't know if it is race quality.

http://mustangsurvival.com/products/...01large181.jpg

Is this the one you're referring to?


The MV4601 High Collar Water Sport Vest is strength-tested to 100mph meaning it has been designed, tested and approved to hold up to the rigors of the most demanding watersports such as jet-skiing, wakeboarding and water-skiing. Comfortable enough to wear all day, the neoprene-lined fitted collar enhances comfort and head support and the large 3-belt system allows for an adjustable, secure fit. Includes a convenient internal storage pocket.

With smart styling and cutaway armholes for maximum range of motion, the MV4601 also delivers the superior flotation performance synonymous with Mustang Survival.
hmmmmmmmm

RunninHotRacing163.1 03-04-2011 09:09 AM

dont be a cheap azz :D

Sea-Dated 03-04-2011 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing163.1 (Post 3341949)
dont be a cheap azz :D

He can't help it...... :party-smiley-004:

:lolhit:

waterboy222 03-04-2011 09:31 AM

Im definately not tryin to be cheap on safety! Just makin sure Im gettin the best I can get.. Not saying that price isn't a concern, but Id rather spend a few more and get whats best and at least know WHY i spent what I did!

wrinkleface 03-04-2011 09:38 AM

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slip these on your arms & your good 2 go!!!!!:evilb:

Ryan Beckley 03-04-2011 09:47 AM

I have NEW SRP (security race products) lackets for sale. They are offshore race jackets.

waterboy222 03-04-2011 09:50 AM

Just from looking at old posts on here, it seems the SRP and the lifeline jackets are comparable but the SRPs dont come with a collar. Am I reading that right?

waterbum 03-04-2011 09:52 AM

I got one of the Mustang jackets (MV4601) about 5-6 years ago. I use it once a year to satisfy the LOTO Shootout rules.

Now, just watch how many people jump in with their opinion on using anything less than a Lifeline is "stupid". There will be a bunch of folks on here who pile on saying "why trust your life to anything but the best - just buy a lifeline".

Here's my response - My boat tops out well under 100 MPH. I have to use the jacket once a year during the Shootout. My jacket costs less than $100, meets the Shootout requirements and let's me have a good time.

Am I taking a risk by not using Lifeline? Maybe, but I believe it is a very, very small risk. There have been many racers killed while wearing a Lifeline so having one does not provide a 100% guarantee that I am fully protected.

That's the beauty of being an American. In most areas of my life I have the freedom to choose which risks I am willing to live with. In this matter, I've done the risk analysis and made my choice. Those with alot more disposable income than I have, can make a different choice.

If I was racing or boating at well over 100MPH on a regular basis, then my decision would have been different.

glassdave 03-04-2011 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by waterboy222 (Post 3341971)
Im definately not tryin to be cheap on safety! Just makin sure Im gettin the best I can get.. Not saying that price isn't a concern, but Id rather spend a few more and get whats best and at least know WHY i spent what I did!

Life Line is the best, their reputation speaks for its self. Not sure what else is out there but it will be interesting to see what turns up. I do like some of the Mustang products, a friend of mine had a pair of bomber style jackets on his boat and i thought they were like a regular coat that you wore around until i put one on and asked about them. Turns out they were USCG rated and very comfortable. Thought about getting some for those cool fall runs. Poke around their site they may have some performance stuff, they have a great reputation as well. Personally i have both life Line and a pair of SRP's


http://www.mustangsurvival.com/produ...hp?id=243&mc=6

waterboy222 03-04-2011 09:59 AM

I can see your side, but more than anything I feel like the $1200 spent on the proper jackets for the application is $1200 worth of peace of mind.. Id love to go drop $80 on a handful of seadoo jackets but the stress of owning a cat is already high enough without having to worry constantly about cheap jackets too. My question was posted to try and learn what all lifeline "type" jackets are available since google wasn't doin me any favors..

Price is a concern, but more than that would be tryin to keep my dumbass friends from using a $300 jacket as a floatie at party cove! lol!

RunninHotRacing163.1 03-04-2011 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3341980)
slip these on your arms & your good 2 go!!!!!:evilb:

LMFAO :lolhit:

waterboy222 03-04-2011 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3341980)
slip these on your arms & your good 2 go!!!!!:evilb:


Thats what I normally wear, but....:grinser010:

RunninHotRacing163.1 03-04-2011 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by waterboy222 (Post 3342029)
Thats what I normally wear, but....:grinser010:

or the hot chik with the PFDs :eek:

Mac 03-04-2011 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by waterboy222 (Post 3341914)
Ive been lookin around on Google and havent found any racing jackets that seem to be of similar quality to the Lifeline brand.

Does anyone have experience with any brands besides them?

All i can seem to find are "high speed lifejackets, perfect for todays PWC's and performance bassboats" :lolhit:

WHAT?? Is Delo requiring Lifelines on the Carver now??

waterboy222 03-04-2011 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mac (Post 3342184)
WHAT?? Is Delo requiring Lifelines on the Carver now??

Not required, but its not a bad idea!:lolhit:
Actually just wearing one anytime Im on the dock at ALL isnt a bad idea!

E Dock DD 03-04-2011 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by waterboy222 (Post 3342015)
but the stress of owning a cat is already high enough without having to worry constantly about cheap jackets too.

Mac, it sounds like he is still shopping.

RunninHotRacing163.1 03-04-2011 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by waterboy222 (Post 3342185)
Not required, but its not a bad idea!:lolhit:
Actually just wearing one anytime Im on the dock at ALL isnt a bad idea!

check out the SRP Bro we've had real good luck with them and pretty comfortable, the Lifelines are pretty BIG & bulky and pretty tuff too squeeze into bucket seats with them.good luck :drink:

pitts1313 03-04-2011 03:28 PM

Sterns also has some SARs (search and rescues) with leg straps. Disclaimer: I'm not saying this is equal to a life line. Hopefully you scrub off enough speed in a spin or blow over before you need a 100 mph impact. Something that you and crew wear is more important.

amann 03-04-2011 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Sea-Dated (Post 3341966)
He can't help it...... :party-smiley-004:

:lolhit:



LMFAO!!! THAT WAS FUNNY....

39 Unlimited 03-04-2011 05:43 PM

We ordered ours from Brad Schoenwald with Tres Martin Performance. Easy deal, pick your colors, sizes and logo's your done. Lifeline actually will customize the jackets to match your boat.

Ryan8886 03-04-2011 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by pitts1313 (Post 3342286)
Sterns also has some SARs (search and rescues) with leg straps. Disclaimer: I'm not saying this is equal to a life line. Hopefully you scrub off enough speed in a spin or blow over before you need a 100 mph impact. Something that you and crew wear is more important.

I have one of the Sterns SAR's. Nice jacket. Maybe not quite as comfy as some of the lifelines I've seen, however the construction on it appears to be good quality and it does have leg straps. Like one of the earlier posters....my boat does well under 100...top end is 70 and most times I'm cruising around 50. Lifeline's are nice indeed...but at a serious price premium.

Shallow Minded 03-05-2011 08:29 AM

Good thread... what do the Mustang's run $$$-wise, I can't find pricing on their website?

pitts1313 03-05-2011 09:09 AM

About $110 for the mustang mv4601.

Toffen 03-05-2011 01:57 PM

Hi!

I did have a Lifeline jacket for a year (offshore race version), but it does not turn an unconcious person around in water. This does http://www.frode.se/Jackets_eng/Pro%...20English.html

Cheeers, Toffen

cigboat1 03-05-2011 03:07 PM

Appears to be a very nice jacket! Are they coast guard approved and are they race approved in the United States? The fact that they will turn someone over is a big factor.Any idea how much in the U.S. they will cost ?

As I have stated in some other threads , the chances of your survival in a crash over 100 M.P.H. are slim to none !If you do ,you are one lucky S.O.B. Most of the guys racing out there have crash helmets ,Big dollar life jackets and other safety gear on. What are you going to have on ,Board shorts, Sun glasses and a gold chain ?In my opinion too many people on this forum take too lightly that speed on the water can also kill,just like on land...... Just a matter of time before some one gets killed going 130 and the insurance companies say ok that 's all were not going to cover any of you guys anymore .....I know preaching to the choir!!!!!!!



Jim

Toffen 03-05-2011 03:51 PM

HI!

The Frode' Jackets are in accordance with the UIM rule book and approved by the Swedish Powerboat Association for International Racing.

If I remember correctly I paid approx. USD 700 incl tax and freight. I will check and come back to you. They freight all over the world. Very very nice quality. The vest has a built-in back reinforcement too.

Cheeers, Toffen

formula 382 sr-1 03-05-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Shallow Minded (Post 3342777)
Good thread... what do the Mustang's run $$$-wise, I can't find pricing on their website?

You can find them online from $76.00 to $89.00.

formula 382 sr-1 03-05-2011 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Shallow Minded (Post 3342777)
Good thread... what do the Mustang's run $$$-wise, I can't find pricing on their website?

Google them MV4600 or MV4601 .

FogduckerIII 03-05-2011 04:36 PM

If I am not mistaken, Lifeline vests are not Coast Guard approved right? So on a boat you would have to have an approved jacket/vest for everybody as well as a Lifeline IF that is your choice.....personally, I boat at idle to about 80mph and I feel comfortable in the Mustang hydrostatic "horse-shoe" vest, it is comfortable, light weight, reasonable priced and it WILL flip you right side up if you go in unconcious.......I agree, if you RACE you need more protection ie. helmet vest etc.....but for what I do, and I think what "most" do, these work well.:coolcowboy:

http://www.mustangsurvival.com/produ...uct.php?id=513

Toffen 03-05-2011 05:04 PM

Hi,

I partly agree. I think its fine to use hydrostatic vest up to 60 mph. Above that the water and speed together can be fatal. Check out Crewfit 290N Advanced & Advanced Plus at http://www.crewsaver.co.uk/Crewsaver....html?catid=95

The god thing about these vests are that they have leg straps. Without the vest tend to go over your head if you hit the water at high speeds. Just something to be aware of.

Cheeers, Toffen

FogduckerIII 03-05-2011 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Toffen (Post 3343099)
Hi,

I partly agree. I think its fine to use hydrostatic vest up to 60 mph. Above that the water and speed together can be fatal. Check out Crewfit 290N Advanced & Advanced Plus at http://www.crewsaver.co.uk/Crewsaver....html?catid=95

The god thing about these vests are that they have leg straps. Without the vest tend to go over your head if you hit the water at high speeds. Just something to be aware of.

Cheeers, Toffen

Good point and nice vests......are these "North American" Coast Guard approved?

PS. If you are unlucky enough to go out of a boat at 60, 80 or 100 I think your screwed either way..... I was thrown at about 50 and broke ribs and an arm, had nothing to do with a lifejacket, just happened I had the Mustang on and it did the right thing and it was nice to float face up waiting to be picked up..... ;-)

ROTAX454 03-06-2011 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Toffen (Post 3343099)
Hi,

I partly agree. I think its fine to use hydrostatic vest up to 60 mph. Above that the water and speed together can be fatal. Check out Crewfit 290N Advanced & Advanced Plus at http://www.crewsaver.co.uk/Crewsaver....html?catid=95

The good thing about these vests are that they have leg straps. Without the vest tend to go over your head if you hit the water at high speeds. Just something to be aware of.

Cheeers, Toffen

What he said. At a minimum, the vest must have leg straps. Second, the wear uses them!!

Gizmo 03-06-2011 03:37 PM

I have Lifelines that Carol and I use several times a season. When I bought them, she commented on how much they cost. I told her that I felt that we are both worth the cost. Now, she is the first person on board to put on a jacket. I have reservations with some folks that believe that accidents can only happen when racing. Things can happen in the blink of an eye on the water, whether you are running 80 or 50. Just my .02!

fastedy 03-06-2011 06:22 PM

I have 2 lifeline jackets for sale $500, they were recertified and completely recondition last year, they have the thin padding, offshore race style


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