Factory 2 - Somethings Fishy
First I would like to say i am new to the site and I think it's great. I have been reading all of the posts regarding the SBI race and the possibility of cheating. I have been jumping back and forth from the SBI site to the APBA site and I must say it does appear there may be something going on. If you look at the average speeds of F-2 in SBI and F-2 in APBA there is a susbstancial differance actually 5 tp 6 MPH. From talking to people at both events the water was about the same. NOW HERE IS THE INTERSTING PART! Muscle Racing is a SUPER V with (Twin 1000s I believe). Invensys Fountain is a factory 2 with (twin 500's). Now there average speed is only 2 miles an hour less then the super V's. I have a hard time with this. I am dialing in my 37 Outerlimits with twin staggered 500 efi's. I am planing to start racing it in June in SBI. I promise you, If they want my boat in there circuit the first 3 boats are going to be dynoed or I will be putting up my checkbook for The $2500 to have the winners motors torn down. I did not just get done spending over $400k to get beat by racer's using questionble methods or "Bumping it up" as another member referred to in an earlier post.
SUPER V WINNER AVG.SPEED V-2 Muscle 84.9 85.5 83.7 86.1 27.0 85.11 FACTORY 2 WINNER AVG. SPEED F2-15 Invensys Fountain 83.2 84.6 85.2 79.4 27.0 83.08 |
Hey NY Speed!
From one Joizy boy to an otherWELCOME TO THE BOARD! FYI The Muscle is running Mercury Racing Super Vee Class engines. The dyno at approx 750 HP. :cool: |
NYSpeedDemon...I put a post on here a couple days ago, asking about F2 speeds, I'll bring it back to the top...I asked questions with specifics and got NO answers. Take a look at it, as an ex(it makes the g/f happy to hear that) F2 racer, I found it to be interesting when my friend in SC-Lite told me he got passed by an F2. Ummmm.....big question mark.
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More Questions...
Did your pal in the SClite fuel up for a full allotment of laps
on saturday, and then find the races had been cut short due to weather on sunday? And could he have propped for the reported 2-3ft chop, and found the race course glass smooth with the occasional roller? LOOKED like a F2 boat out there attempting to burn off fuel ? an hour or so before the green flag dropped... the stuff weighs what, 6-7lbs a gallon? |
Ruben, you were there and you didnt stop by and say hello...next time stop by registration...Yup you are right that an F2 boat was out running, I think for the reason that you stated...but the water did calm down, glass would be a good description...Saturday however, it was a little different...wouldnt you say...
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Hey Reuben...
My friend made it a point to look at the GPS when this happened, it was in triple digits. So, fuel or not, small wheels or not, the F2s were screaming. |
Simple physics?
Soooo, a lighter boat will accelerate faster than a heavier one?
And I counted the blades on the props on one of those F2 boats, it had five...and they were real high up, and real close together. And the only people I see complaining about it seem to be racing in other organizations, or other classes...humnnn. BG, I don't want what happened to Goodfella to happen to me... I stay in the concrete reinforced bunker 500ft below the old thunderboat row, and only go out wearing my disguise. |
I see your point, Goodfella and I do have differing opinions, but I respect them...As a matter of fact sometimes we have differing opinions, but I respect them as well...
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simple
If there were no differences of opinion,
there'd be no need for this message board. I'd be bored spitless if everybody agreed with me. That's why I got married... so I'd have somebody to argue with who'd still go home with me. |
Re: Simple physics?
Originally posted by Ruben Bermudez Soooo, a lighter boat will accelerate faster than a heavier one? And I counted the blades on the props on one of those F2 boats, it had five...and they were real high up, and real close together. And the only people I see complaining about it seem to be racing in other organizations, or other classes...humnnn. BG, I don't want what happened to Goodfella to happen to me... I stay in the concrete reinforced bunker 500ft below the old thunderboat row, and only go out wearing my disguise. |
BoatGirl - I thought that the conditions were better on Saturday than Sunday! :D :D :D
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Hey Rico!
Humans and animals are very alike, when you ask someone a question and they go into defensive mode it usaully means there trying to hide something. Just like if you back a wild animal in a corner you better be ready for a down and dirty BRAWL! |
Hp to Weight.
1500 hp to 9200 lbs super Vee. 1080 hp to 8200 lbs svl. Apples and oranges. Put up a $25,000 prise for fastest lap and the super vee will lap the svl. You only need to go fast enough to win. pat W |
Rename the class
It's NOT an F2.
It has evolved into something FASTER, lighter, and NOT available in DEALERSHIPS. Funny boat. Funny boat. Funny boat. Now, all we gotta do is get Bennie to imitate John Force, change the name, and maybe some fans will show up. (Rico, everybody in SBI ain't a Dick, apparently it's just me) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Re: simple
Originally posted by Ruben Bermudez I'd be bored spitless if everybody agreed with me. That's why I got married... so I'd have somebody to argue with who'd still go home with me. Now THAT was funny !!! |
that is funny!
i think we should turn it into something like the WWF and we could kick the **** out of each other in a cage if someone has a protest.... or a year end rumble at worlds between apba and sbi racers!!! yeeeeeaaaah, that's it! make it really blooooody too:D |
That's why APBA has only one company certifing all of the racing engines. APBA had the same problem before. If you want to make your engines faster get the computer changes from Arizona Speed. The performance increase is excellant for the price.
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