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Vern 05-22-2002 02:44 PM

Speed Waxes
 
I see some race teams are using them, do they really work? Anybody got any success stories using them? Which is best?

Awhile ago seems like there was a group purchase through OSO, but I don't remember anyone saying if they worked or not.

Vern 05-22-2002 04:44 PM

That's kinda what I thought, but it seems some teams are still using it.

Anybody else try it?

Treadwellmotorsports 05-22-2002 07:22 PM

hyspeedkote works. it about 1mile an hour. it also takes a little of the ounding out of the boat in rough water.

Treadwell

BajaBoss252 05-22-2002 10:07 PM


Originally posted by Treadwellmotorsports
hyspeedkote works. it about 1mile an hour. it also takes a little of the ounding out of the boat in rough water.

Treadwell

It takes some of the pounding out in rough water? That's like saying if I wax my car, it won't hurt as much if I hit a tree...

BDFREE 05-23-2002 08:02 AM

treadwell

are you racing this year.:confused:

audacity 05-23-2002 08:30 AM

you guys should pay more attention to what tread says...i don't see tread listed as one of their sponsors....for 120 bucks what do u have to loose???....i've spent a lot of K on prop work that got me nothing....

www.hyspeedkote.com

BruceK 05-23-2002 08:35 AM

Tread is right, if I didn't see it for myself I would not have believed it. We saw 1-2 mph gain and yes, for some reason when the boat landed it was definitely smoother then with out it.

Treadwellmotorsports 05-23-2002 09:36 AM

first of all they are not my sponsor, second of all i don't believe it's avaible at stores.

and yes i spent a year testing 15 speed kotes and this was one that worked and helped the boat.

it is actually not a wax. it is a polymer. it actually attracts a small layer of water to your hull. so when you are running it is water against water. hence lass friction you go faster.
and yes it does help in rough water. if you have water against water then your landing will be smoother. if you have just a standard waxed bottom (because wax repells water ) you will actually slap the water harder.it also improve gas milage. they sell this stuff to big tanker companys. they have gained up to 15 nots. they save gas and get to there ports a lot faster.

this stuff actually works even better on cruisers and boats without steps. the more hull you have in the water the more speed you gain. thats why you only see a small diffrence with todays stepped bottoms.

if any of you need it let me know and i can get it for you . it also cost more than a 120.00. i believe it's 300 and that is enough for a 38ft boat. there are specific instructions to it and if you don't follow them they won't work. but for 300 for i mile an hour is cheap. also works as a bottom paint so you can leave your boat in the water.

if anybody needs more info e mail me.

Treadwell:D

audacity 05-23-2002 09:39 AM

take a look at the site...it tells u where u can buy it.

hey, tread did ya see my last post about the f2 crap...i thought it was funny:D

Milord 05-23-2002 09:42 AM

I'd say if it was worth 1 or 2 mph on my boat it is well worth the price. According to their chart I could probably get away with a 14 oz. can so $60. That's the cheapest 1 mph I'll ever get. Or taking the cooler of beer out! :rolleyes:

Pricing

CigDaze 05-23-2002 09:51 AM


Originally posted by BajaBoss252
It takes some of the pounding out in rough water? That's like saying if I wax my car, it won't hurt as much if I hit a tree...
I'm not certain one way or another if this stuff really works, but whatever it is that these speed coatings do, they will work the same vertically as they do laterally in reducing drag.

It reduces drag to increase speed and will also reduce drag when re-entering, lessening the impact resistance of the water.

Sydwayz 05-23-2002 10:29 AM

Ok, I just watched the video for Hyspeedkote. It seems pretty straight forward, but the over-application part scares me a bit. I do not want an amber hull. My main question is this: If I am directing water toward my hull, and the Hyspeedkote is designed to soak up some H20, aren't I opening myself to blistering concerns, especially where my boat won't dry completely for a while, (where it sits on the bunks, on the trailer). I worry about this already, not to mention if I am attracting water to the hull as well, with Hyspeedkote. How does this act at a protectant/bottom paint, if I am bring water closer to my hull than before?

Treadwellmotorsports 05-23-2002 11:03 AM

the koting works as a bottom paint also. as per the bottom looking amber that was four years ago when the first batch turned orange when it hit the sun. they have since fixed that.

Treadwell

Vern 05-23-2002 12:11 PM

Treadwell, BruceK, and Audacity, thanks for taking the time to reply to my question. Sounds like it my be worth a try!

velocity260 05-23-2002 09:37 PM

dude you are a good sales man:D , just kidding if it will keep the green slime from the great lakes off I would go for it for sure.

Tinkerer 05-23-2002 10:02 PM

I used to use VC LIQUID SPEED - that stuff really worked -EPA made them stop making it - same as freon 11 +12

audacity 05-24-2002 07:01 AM

they are all out of $$$ mike!!!LOL

make sure to use alcohol to clean the bottom....u may get a slight tint of yellowing....so they say, or boats did not.

baldguy215 05-25-2002 02:36 PM

SpeedWax
 
I tell you Ausley's Wax works best. I have used it for 3 years and we have won 2 World Championships and 1 National Championship. F2-15 is fast and the secret is Ausley's Wax. If you want to be fast and injured wax your boat with Ausley's Wax, it makes it fast and damned near impossible to walk on the deck without a harness.... ask TJ.....

Tinkerer 05-25-2002 06:41 PM

HIRELESS ONE -Where do you get it.

26scarab 07-22-2002 12:15 PM

Just curious if anyone has any feedback on the Hyspeedkote ?

Thinking about trying it .
:)

audacity 07-22-2002 12:24 PM

boat us...they stock it right there at metro.

Reckless32 07-22-2002 12:32 PM

Okay, assuming it works "measurably" how long can the coating be assured to last under normal & above boating environments i.e. the boat spends some time in the water on weekends and gets a good 100 hours per season (salt water)?...

audacity 07-22-2002 12:38 PM

a long time!...the only way it's com'n off is with a chemical or powerloading which you should NOT b do'n anyway. it really doesn't care what type of water your in.

Offshore Addiction 07-22-2002 12:38 PM

Fever Mike-

They have it at West Marine, that is where we got ours the last time. Just be sure to apply it evenly and not too thick.....

thunderdan 07-22-2002 12:42 PM

Did anyone ever try the product aqua tech? There was someone who was a member of OSO that was selling this stuff???

fountain27ho496 07-22-2002 12:52 PM

I tried marine skin, it worked
 
Put a couple coats on before I went boating this year,
hit 69 couldnt get over 67 last year. Also makes cleaning
off the scum a lot easier, since my boat stays wet for
a couple weeks at a time. I put in on my drive, tabs ,
sides, and reapply when I pull it put of water.


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