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Manatee Zones don't work.....
The latest manatee news... The state of Fl. and the $MC are in denial....:angry-smiley-038:
http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20110328/NEWS01/103280316/Manatee-slow-speed-zone-success-mixed?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Home|p |
Nothing new... You know they don't really care about the animal it's just a vehicle to regulate all of us.
Funny thing is that the governing entities are realizing that it is a huge budget drain... And eventually they will diminish patrolling on a budget base only when tax payers handcuff them... That is our only slim hope. |
Originally Posted by GLH
(Post 3361532)
Nothing new... You know they don't really care about the animal it's just a vehicle to regulate all of us.
Funny thing is that the governing entities are realizing that it is a huge budget drain... And eventually they will diminish patrolling on a budget base only when tax payers handcuff them... That is our only slim hope. Interesting and spot on observation, in talking to a www.cffw.org board member the other day at Ski island, she said basically the same thing, and that was the point CFFW was going to start ATTACKING "In these tough budget times, how much $$ is the Gov't going to be able to spend on this crap"! If the average taxpayer had any idea how many $$ are being spent on this, they would have 2nd thoughts about this whole manatee issue..... I think anyway. Dean |
The same old fuzzy logic.
Their own stats show that despite their intrusions into the world of boating, their laws have done nothing. Does that make them stop? Nope. They justify their continued defiance of logic by basically saying 'imagine how bad it would have been if .....' Too many people involved that never want to admit they're wrong. |
Originally Posted by VtSteve
(Post 3361575)
The same old fuzzy logic.
Their own stats show that despite their intrusions into the world of boating, their laws have done nothing. Does that make them stop? Nope. They justify their continued defiance of logic by basically saying 'imagine how bad it would have been if .....' Too many people involved that never want to admit they're wrong. Correct , the $MC has no logic, except to stay employed, and keep the Manatee propaganda machine rolling!:angry-smiley-038: |
Originally Posted by GLH
(Post 3361532)
Nothing new... You know they don't really care about the animal it's just a vehicle to regulate all of us.
Funny thing is that the governing entities are realizing that it is a huge budget drain... And eventually they will diminish patrolling on a budget base only when tax payers handcuff them... That is our only slim hope. There was a study done down here at a major university, regarding Manatees. The examined how Manatees and virtually all marine mammals navigate. The Manatee has extremely poor underwater vision, but excellent hearing (sonar), like most marine mammals. They went on to discover that a boat prop at idle speed, generates sound frequency's that Manatees do not hear until they are almost on top of them, but a boat prop at higher speed, generates sound frequency's that Manatees hear sometimes miles away. Going at idle speed gives the Manatee a second or two to react and avoid your prop. Going faster gives the Manatee sometimes a minute or more to turn away and be far from your prop. |
Originally Posted by AppSysCons
(Post 3361661)
You got that right.
There was a study done down here at a major university, regarding Manatees. The examined how Manatees and virtually all marine mammals navigate. The Manatee has extremely poor underwater vision, but excellent hearing (sonar), like most marine mammals. They went on to discover that a boat prop at idle speed, generates sound frequency's that Manatees do not hear until they are almost on top of them, but a boat prop at higher speed, generates sound frequency's that Manatees hear sometimes miles away. Going at idle speed gives the Manatee a second or two to react and avoid your prop. Going faster gives the Manatee sometimes a minute or more to turn away and be far from your prop. Frank, the $MC calls that study, Junk Science, but it's a he!! of alot better than anything they have produced, which is NOTHING!!!:angry-smiley-038: Dean |
This whole thing is another great example of what happens when you puct the fox in charge of the hen house - then also give him control over the chicken satisfaction measure.
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Originally Posted by Too Stroked
(Post 3361779)
This whole thing is another great example of what happens when you puct the fox in charge of the hen house - then also give him control over the chicken satisfaction measure.
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I hit one last year going less than 25 in the zone doing about 15 mph. (I didnt report it because I dont believe theres a good samaritan certificate for following the laws) but im sure they would have found something to fine me for..
It cost me $2000 to repair my lower unit. I bet if I was plained out doing 35-40 on top of the water it would not of happened. Are they even native to Florida?? They should protect the wild Iguanas next. Set road speed limits to 25 mph and see how that goes over in Lauderdale/Miami. |
Originally Posted by AppSysCons
(Post 3361661)
You got that right.
There was a study done down here at a major university, regarding Manatees. The examined how Manatees and virtually all marine mammals navigate. The Manatee has extremely poor underwater vision, but excellent hearing (sonar), like most marine mammals. They went on to discover that a boat prop at idle speed, generates sound frequency's that Manatees do not hear until they are almost on top of them, but a boat prop at higher speed, generates sound frequency's that Manatees hear sometimes miles away. Going at idle speed gives the Manatee a second or two to react and avoid your prop. Going faster gives the Manatee sometimes a minute or more to turn away and be far from your prop. It doesnt matter what they here. Deer hear and see but sometimes change direction 180 deg. when they run. Usually right in your path of travel.. |
I keep feeding them, and have cold water fountains spraying off my dock to get as many behind my house as I can, then Im going to take some pictures, send them to the state and get a sweet no wake zone for my house too. Hopefully that helps the property value, and protects my boat. :drink:
Sarcasm above, manatee zones are pretty much pointless. |
Originally Posted by spk1
(Post 3362189)
I keep feeding them...
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Originally Posted by GLH
(Post 3362199)
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Originally Posted by AppSysCons
(Post 3361661)
You got that right.
There was a study done down here at a major university, regarding Manatees. The examined how Manatees and virtually all marine mammals navigate. The Manatee has extremely poor underwater vision, but excellent hearing (sonar), like most marine mammals. They went on to discover that a boat prop at idle speed, generates sound frequency's that Manatees do not hear until they are almost on top of them, but a boat prop at higher speed, generates sound frequency's that Manatees hear sometimes miles away. Going at idle speed gives the Manatee a second or two to react and avoid your prop. Going faster gives the Manatee sometimes a minute or more to turn away and be far from your prop. |
Good data there thanks, The Feds, Fl. State, and of course the $MC ignored all this research!:angry-smiley-038: Dean |
Originally Posted by spk1
(Post 3362189)
I keep feeding them, and have cold water fountains spraying off my dock to get as many behind my house as I can, then Im going to take some pictures, send them to the state and get a sweet no wake zone for my house too. Hopefully that helps the property value, and protects my boat. :drink:
Sarcasm above, manatee zones are pretty much pointless. Have any pics of your 40' Magnum, love to see them, those are awesome boats.... Is it the Yellow one? Thanks, Dean |
Originally Posted by Dean Ferry
(Post 3362580)
spk1,
Have any pics of your 40' Magnum, love to see them, those are awesome boats.... Is it the Yellow one? Thanks, Dean |
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Originally Posted by spk1
(Post 3362771)
Very nice, good luck with the sale. If you have to go slow in a Manatee Zone, that's the style to do it in! Dean |
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