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PhantomChaos 04-20-2011 03:31 PM

Letter from BoatUS - US Army Corps of Engineers.....WTF?
 
Unbelievable.....what's next.....helmets when swimming?

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April 19, 2011

Dear California BoatU.S. Member,


Do you enjoy jumping off your boat for a swim in Pine Flat Lake? As of April 1, anyone found swimming more than 100 feet from shore without a life jacket -- including boaters who routinely jump in to try to beat 100-degree-plus temperatures -- could result in a $175 fine as part of the new life jacket regulations put in the place by the US Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), which manages the lake.

In addition to life jackets now being mandatory for all swimmers outside of designated swim areas, new USACE regulations say that from April 1, 2011 until October 31, 2011 US Coast Guard approved life jackets must be worn by:

Everyone aboard all non-motorized vessels, regardless of length, at all times.

Everyone aboard motorized vessels up to 16 feet in length, at all times.

Everyone aboard motorized vessels 16 feet in length or larger when underway (except when powered by trolling motor or if you are inside a fully-enclosed cabin or the boat is stationary.)
With nearly 372 million visits a year at the Corps lakes, beaches and other areas, the overall number of Corps water-related fatalities nationwide averages around 150 annually. Boating-related fatalities at Corps facilities nationwide average 32 deaths a year (not including those who voluntarily left their boat to swim).

Unlike state agencies, or even the Coast Guard, the Army Corps can make this kind of change without any public comment. As part of this multi-year study, they have instituted similar requirements in the Pittsburgh area and some lakes in Mississippi. While the word "study" implies a temporary ruling, the Corps says they are considering more permanent life jacket rules for much larger geographical areas in the future.

Because many of our Members have had strong reactions to new government mandates for adults to wear lifejackets, we are sharing this information with you now. Boaters are encouraged to share their own thoughts about these new requirements by sending emails to the Park Manager and their Members of Congress.

You can easily take action by going to www.BoatUS.com/gov/action.

Thank you for being a BoatU.S. member.

Margaret Podlich
Vice President, BoatU.S. Government Affairs
[email protected]
703-461-2878 x8363

For an update on this and other government affairs topics please visit BoatUS.com/gov

Haley'sComet 04-20-2011 03:43 PM

Hey Nort...

I live in California too, so this could end up being a potential state-wide ruling on all our lakes and waterways in Cali?:eek:

It sure is amazing that the government can spend 100's of thousands of $$$ on these kind of "regulations"...

I agree, unbelievable!

I am on the way to the Boat US link right now to leave my "thoughts" on this!!!!!!

Crossett 04-20-2011 03:57 PM

good lord, CA sucks...

TexomaPowerboater 04-20-2011 04:09 PM

Don't follow it, federal laws are passed by congress, not by the USCG.

skater40 04-20-2011 04:38 PM

Its mostly about the revenue they will generate via fines.

dodgeman111 04-20-2011 04:43 PM

Now that is going overboard. Why can't we keep some freedom ?

Interceptor 04-20-2011 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3382251)
Don't follow it, federal laws are passed by congress, not by the USCG.

Corp of Engineers ruling. Guessing this could happen on all waters they control i,e, impoundments caused by their dams etc.

Magic Medicine 04-20-2011 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Crossett (Post 3382242)
good lord, CA sucks...

Agreed

tomtbone1993 04-20-2011 06:04 PM

God Bless Texas :)

DMOORE 04-20-2011 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Crossett (Post 3382242)
good lord, CA sucks...

Actually it's not CA at all...(this time). It's the corps of Enginners. They are doing a 1 year study on this lake. They happen to control it as well. BTW, I think it totally sucks. Pretty soon they will want to make all of us use a helmet just incase we trip.


Darrell.

Captain YARRR 04-20-2011 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by tomtbone1993 (Post 3382360)
God Bless Texas :)

We have Corps of Engineers lakes here too, hope it doesn't spread!

LHC30Victory 04-21-2011 04:52 PM

HOLY MOLY!!!!
While any death is tragic, accidents will happen but the percentage is infinitely small - 32 deaths out of 372 MILLION visit(ors)!!!

AND, their "Study" is designed for predictable outcome and will be a huge success. After all, how can one possibly drown if you have a vest on?

Sounds like they are rigging the results for what purpose?


Boy, are they going to make a big difference!

Crossett 04-21-2011 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by tomtbone1993 (Post 3382360)
God Bless Texas :)

amen

Crossett 04-21-2011 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by DMOORE (Post 3382373)
Actually it's not CA at all...(this time). It's the corps of Enginners. They are doing a 1 year study on this lake. They happen to control it as well. BTW, I think it totally sucks. Pretty soon they will want to make all of us use a helmet just incase we trip.


Darrell.

Right, but that kind of thing would never fly here. CA is used to over regulation. Just look at their gun laws and CARB. Poor fools

Matt Trulio 04-21-2011 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by Crossett (Post 3382242)
good lord, CA sucks...

There are lots of great things about living here. But the costs—sky-high state taxes, broken government, crumbling infrastructure, a public school system that's way down there despite the leading state economy in the nation and ridiculously invasive legislation—aren't among them.

Crossett 04-21-2011 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3383386)
There are lots of great things about living here. But the costs—sky-high state taxes, broken government, crumbling infrastructure, a public school system that's way down there despite the leading state economy in the nation and ridiculously invasive legislation—aren't among them.

And massive amounts of liberals.

Aside from all that it's gorgeous country though

Catmando 04-21-2011 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3383386)
There are lots of great things about living here. But the costs—sky-high state taxes, broken government, crumbling infrastructure, a public school system that's way down there despite the leading state economy in the nation and ridiculously invasive legislation—aren't among them.

Not to worry Jerry will fix. :lolhit:


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