Poker Runs and Drinking...
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But if something happens, the whole topic turns to chit with the insurance company and the police. Better safe than sorry.
is the order of the day.
It protects everyone including the event sponsors.
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The laws are getting more stringent as time goes on. If something bad happens and the person blows anything other than .00, It is most likely they will be written a ticket for "under the influence" or "While Impaired", these are subjective and can be written at any time. Then it is up to the driver to contest it.
From my understanding, the first thing the prosecuting Attorney will subpoena is the hold harmless and rules signed at the Poker Run, where it will CLEARLY state 0 tolerance to drinking and it is not a race... That is an entirely different thread, but you can bet that too will be included in the charges...
Celebrate at the end of the day... Not during, remember it your friends you will most likely kill first!
From my understanding, the first thing the prosecuting Attorney will subpoena is the hold harmless and rules signed at the Poker Run, where it will CLEARLY state 0 tolerance to drinking and it is not a race... That is an entirely different thread, but you can bet that too will be included in the charges...
Celebrate at the end of the day... Not during, remember it your friends you will most likely kill first!
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Laws, yes and also juries. Remember, the job of a plaintiff attorney is to profit from tragedy. Who else in our society really PROFITS from tragedy other than this scum? They increasingly influence juries to decide these accidents are actually premeditated crimes, in order to reap these enormous profits. If any of you plaintiff attys out there have any balls, call me on this.
Whether you like it or not, this "is what it is" as they say so all of us better be careful.
Whether you like it or not, this "is what it is" as they say so all of us better be careful.
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Boaters have lost many freedoms out on the water due to problem drinkers. It only has to happen once for you life, and those of many others, to be changed permanently.
Year after year, we read about accidents on everything from small fishing boats to pontoons to jet skis to poker run incidents. You don't even have to go fast to be deadly, many accidents happen under 30 mph. You don;t even have to drink to become a victim, ask the people run over or hit by those that did drink.
We've lost family, friends, people go to jail, lawsuits ruin family wealth. Many speed limits on lakes can be at least partially attributed to drinking. Innocent people out on the water are routinely checked out by the various patrols, looking for drinkers.
Boating life in general would be a lot more pleasant, and a lot cheaper in some areas, if not for drinkers. So because of those people, we all suffer. Virtually every state has tightened up their patrols looking for BUI's. If you think you are OK and haven't had that much, think again. It could be a very costly mistake. At worst, a life changing event for your family, and possibly the lives of others.
Year after year, we read about accidents on everything from small fishing boats to pontoons to jet skis to poker run incidents. You don't even have to go fast to be deadly, many accidents happen under 30 mph. You don;t even have to drink to become a victim, ask the people run over or hit by those that did drink.
We've lost family, friends, people go to jail, lawsuits ruin family wealth. Many speed limits on lakes can be at least partially attributed to drinking. Innocent people out on the water are routinely checked out by the various patrols, looking for drinkers.
Boating life in general would be a lot more pleasant, and a lot cheaper in some areas, if not for drinkers. So because of those people, we all suffer. Virtually every state has tightened up their patrols looking for BUI's. If you think you are OK and haven't had that much, think again. It could be a very costly mistake. At worst, a life changing event for your family, and possibly the lives of others.
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In addition to every other valid point made here: So many poker runs involve rafting off and putting big boats in small spaces. On a big catamaran, that can mean having one person on each "point" of the boat—scampering across slick or hot fiberglass with high-dollar graphics to get there—to fend off and push and attach lines and throw lines to people on the docks and hop up those docks, which are three feet above cat's gunwales, to tie off.
Not an exactly a great scenario for an under-the-influence, much less outright hammered, crew.
Tie it up, wash it off and head for the bar. I'm buying. Just ask my friends from New Jersey.
Not an exactly a great scenario for an under-the-influence, much less outright hammered, crew.
Tie it up, wash it off and head for the bar. I'm buying. Just ask my friends from New Jersey.
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It was an organized run...
what run, where & what year ??? spoke to some Texas folks yesterday for the holiday , mentioned the thread about drinking for 2 to 3 hours b4 there runs start and they mentioned in all there years of poker running NEVER B4 the run .. was this just a few boaters having a lil fun run ???