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Wildman_grafix 05-16-2011 10:05 PM

Night vision
 
Has anyone tried one of these or products that are similar?

http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/night_vision.html

Carguy08 05-17-2011 08:00 PM

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Wildman_grafix 05-19-2011 12:15 PM

No one every tried one of these?

I thought it would be a nice thing to have in case you get caught out at night, radar is great but who has those on a go fast,,,,,,,,,,,, I know of only one guy on here.

Price the problem?

salesmanship 05-19-2011 01:04 PM

I played around with it.
It worked really well and is a great bang for the buck.

Make sure you get the super wide angle lens.

Fountain4402 05-19-2011 01:36 PM

Never tried this products but I just got out the of the army and let me give you my perspective on night vision.

All the stuff I ever used was good stuff and it gave us the edge. BUT IT IS NOT like the movies trust me. The biggest thing is it will probably have less than a 180 degree field of vision. Also you will only be able to see good detail probably 50-100m away. Also if there is no illum(ie moon, or lighting) it wont work as well. These basically take light and intensify it so you can see. And this doesnt have an IR flood so it wouldnt help on a pitch black night. For 2 grand I could find other ways to spend my money. Spot lights, go slow, plotter, etc. If you really want one you can get personal sized ones from cabelas or bass pro for half that and you can have you or your passenger hold it up to see out when needed and you arent mounting more junk to the boat.

GAUGETHIS 05-22-2011 08:26 PM

Nite Vision Low Lux Camera LIVORSI
 
I have been using this camera personally for over a year and I have never been in a situation where it does not work.
There would rarely be a situation where there is no ambient light. Pricing is a third of the thermal imaging cameras cost.

I use the portable version with the suction cup. When Im done I put it away. Displays on anything with an RCA video input. www.livorsi.com

Fountain4402 05-23-2011 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by GAUGETHIS (Post 3409739)
I have been using this camera personally for over a year and I have never been in a situation where it does not work.
There would rarely be a situation where there is no ambient light. Pricing is a third of the thermal imaging cameras cost.

I use the portable version with the suction cup. When Im done I put it away. Displays on anything with an RCA video input. www.livorsi.com

Of course your going to say that. But all im saying is night vision isnt what people think. Its better than nothing and works good. But you cant see more miles with it and your field of vision is quite small.. Its cool stuff. But just dont buy something like this and think you can see as good at night as you can during the day

GAUGETHIS 05-23-2011 01:04 PM

Nite Vision Low Lux Camera
 
This one is not a magnification and will only see what the naked eye sees during the day. There are however lenses that will allow you to see further out but of course are more money.

Fountain4402 05-23-2011 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3410355)
Would would be stupid enough to think that?

i dont know. Just giving you my experiences with it, alot of people have this idea that its like the movies. Night vision is grainy and you can only see really good maybe out to 100m tops. Im not going against or for this product or any product, and it could and might be a useful tool. But in IMO for two grand I dont ride at night and it doesnt make sense but it might for you

Double Rigged 05-23-2011 01:56 PM

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[QUOTE=Wildman_grafix;3405004]Has anyone tried one of these or products that are similar?

http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/night_vision.html[/QUOTE

Low lux cameras have been around for a while. They work ok under certain conditions and do have some pitfalls. If you are in a changing light situation the IRIS of the camera will adjust. I have a true Thermal camera on my Skater. For me I do want to have to climb out on the bow, have a cable across the deck or forget to bring on the day I end up needing it. Just depends on your needs and budget.

Wildman_grafix 05-23-2011 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3410474)
i dont know. Just giving you my experiences with it, alot of people have this idea that its like the movies. Night vision is grainy and you can only see really good maybe out to 100m tops. Im not going against or for this product or any product, and it could and might be a useful tool. But in IMO for two grand I dont ride at night and it doesnt make sense but it might for you

I understand but I can tell you if you get caught out at night and have a good distance to go anything helps better then running blind. Idle is not a option sometimes.
Expensive yea, there are others out there and I am just thinking at this point. I like to look at all options. I never thought they would allow me to see longer distance, but that doesn't mean some people might not.


Low lux cameras have been around for a while. They work ok under certain conditions and do have some pitfalls. If you are in a changing light situation the IRIS of the camera will adjust. I have a true Thermal camera on my Skater. For me I do want to have to climb out on the bow, have a cable across the deck or forget to bring on the day I end up needing it. Just depends on your needs and budget.
What got me thinking about this type over a thermal was a local FL show I was watching this spring that compared the two. The low Lux seemed to have more of a 3d image, but the thermo would show everything. Of course the fishing boat they were using to test had both, and radar.

Looked like the electronics cost more then the boat!
I take it you decide thermo was better?
Isn't the cost on the thermo even more?

You know as for cost, all of us here read every year about someone killing themselves and others running at night, a few grand don't seem like much then does it?

Wildman_grafix 05-23-2011 08:58 PM

BTW double

Nice set up.

Interceptor 05-23-2011 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3410936)
I understand but I can tell you if you get caught out at night and have a good distance to go anything helps better then running blind. Idle is not a option sometimes.
Expensive yea, there are others out there and I am just thinking at this point. I like to look at all options. I never thought they would allow me to see longer distance, but that doesn't mean some people might not.



What got me thinking about this type over a thermal was a local FL show I was watching this spring that compared the two. The low Lux seemed to have more of a 3d image, but the thermo would show everything.
I take it you decide thermo was better?
I think the thermos cost a lot more right?

You know as for cost, all of us here read every year about someone killing themselves and others running at night, a few grand don't seem like much then does it?

Like the other guy said" It's not like the movies " A couple grand is entry level for this type equipment.

Double Rigged 05-24-2011 06:19 AM

I agree. I use my boat a lot and return home at night somtimes. I do not run fast at night however being able to head home at more than idle speed is nice. I have used both types of camera and they are both helpful. For me in addition to seeing other boats my camera will pickup boards, coconuts, see lobster pods etc. For a few more grand it can save serious prop damage as well as lives.
We all know how much aggravation it is once you ding that favorite set of props!
They are never the same.

Fountain4402 05-24-2011 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3410936)
I understand but I can tell you if you get caught out at night and have a good distance to go anything helps better then running blind. Idle is not a option sometimes.
Expensive yea, there are others out there and I am just thinking at this point. I like to look at all options. I never thought they would allow me to see longer distance, but that doesn't mean some people might not.



What got me thinking about this type over a thermal was a local FL show I was watching this spring that compared the two. The low Lux seemed to have more of a 3d image, but the thermo would show everything. Of course the fishing boat they were using to test had both, and radar.

Looked like the electronics cost more then the boat!
I take it you decide thermo was better?
Isn't the cost on the thermo even more?

You know as for cost, all of us here read every year about someone killing themselves and others running at night, a few grand don't seem like much then does it?

before you buy i would suggest checking some out, somehow. I will tell you this the military is usually 25 years ahead of whats out for law enforcement and the public. So What I just used in the Army a year is going to be ahead of what you can buy specially at a 2 grand price tag. I would suggest thermal, because that way you can see everything and wont miss it, because with night vision on a low illum night you could miss another small boat until you got right up on you. This is definitely a nice tool to have a in the tool bag if you run a lot at night and could potentially save your boat or your life. But with that said you shouldnt be flying at night and if you are out at night you should probably have a good knowledge of the water and a chart plotter

Interceptor 05-24-2011 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Fountain4402 (Post 3411176)
before you buy i would suggest checking some out, somehow. I will tell you this the military is usually 25 years ahead of whats out for law enforcement and the public. So What I just used in the Army a year is going to be ahead of what you can buy specially at a 2 grand price tag. I would suggest thermal, because that way you can see everything and wont miss it, because with night vision on a low illum night you could miss another small boat until you got right up on you. This is definitely a nice tool to have a in the tool bag if you run a lot at night and could potentially save your boat or your life. But with that said you shouldnt be flying at night and if you are out at night you should probably have a good knowledge of the water and a chart plotter

He also needs to get a lot of seat time using a TIS.


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