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candyman35 06-03-2002 10:35 PM

Jay,
Lots of good advice here. Take a day or two away from the boat.
It sounds like you need to take your wife out for a nice dinner. It's great when they support your hobbies. When you and her hit the water with those new motors purring it will make all the hard work worth while.

Good luck,
Dan

boot 06-03-2002 10:55 PM

Way to go MArk and Ike ! Help the guy out ! Hang in there ! it will work out and be worth it ! TAke your time and do it right don't be in a big hurry like I used to be . It goes easier ,faster and cheaper if you take your time !

I"m buisy this week but if you guys need another hand let me know and I'll do what ever I can ! " Have torch ,will travel "! :D

LAter ,JOE

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pullmytrigger 06-04-2002 12:23 AM

Some thoughts.........
Your new wife is going to take out a loan to help you out with the engines??!! WHAT A SWEETHEART!!! Id say marry her but you already did, Now go bang her livin' brains out then come back and work on the boat.......
Releasall workks very well, thats all they use at the gas company when they are changing gas meters that have been sitting ouside for 15 yrs.
Call around to some machine shops, some of them have guys that their full time job is nothing but fastener removal, I met a guy one time, that was his business, goes to factorys, printing presses etc
Go bang your wifes brains out......have a cigarette......go back at it..........Doug

puder 06-04-2002 01:50 AM

Hi I'm Brendan P and I'm addicted to boats......


Gotta love the OSO "trailer queen support group" aspect of the site :D

Jayl13 06-04-2002 07:56 AM

Okay
Last night I looked like a monkey ****ing a foot ball trying to work those bolts again to no luck
Me and 2 of my friends thought about it and decided to take a few steps back and have some beers

After they left, I thought about it and thought about it
This thing IS NOT GOING TO BEAT ME
I have pulled **** out of thin air before and Ill do it again

Ike, Im calling you today so be prepared

I have figured out now what to do
I have a wizzer wheel, Im going to take the protective shield off, lay down and wizz the tops of the bolts off
Going to then fork lift this engine out of there (first one is already out)
Then im going to torch the ***** and split the nut with an air chizel and get that off of there and then punch the bolt (or what is left of it) down after I remove the asswipe wishbone silent choice pipe (which by the way is for sale CHEAP)

I just cant believe that little nut (aluminum and as light as a paper clip) is holding on so tight
I have one bolt that does move about 1/8 th of an inch back and forth so I know that one is not seized in the bell housing spot
If that other bolt is not turning at all, Ill torch her little ass and pry up the back of the engine or something (use the fork lift luke!)

Ill get this whore out of there
Ike, what time you able to talk?
Jason

Jayl13 06-04-2002 08:00 AM

Guys, thanks for the help, support and kind words (except you Dil! LOL)
I WILL get this out, rebuilt, dumped back in and the harder I work at this, the sooner Ill FINALLY get out on the water
Thanks to all again
Ill keep you posted on what happens
Jason

Ike 06-04-2002 08:04 AM

Jason i'll here now until at least 6:00 pm.

Milord 06-04-2002 08:42 AM

Good luck Jay. I have yet to pull my motors but I can only imagine I'll have the same sort of **** to deal with. Keep us posted on your progress. By the way, if rust is holding bolts in, I'm a big fan of Coke. Pour a can of coke on them if the coke will sit around them and get down in the threads you are styling. I used to use it all the time to get rusted cap screws out of a mold or die.

Chris288 06-04-2002 10:04 AM

Trust me,,, I feel for yah,,,
 
I have been follwing this saga since its inception,,, Nobody wants to see that FOCKER cruising down the river more than me.. I guess it came out wrong.. But JAY-SON knows its all in jest..

bajadude 06-04-2002 10:35 AM

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If that other bolt is not turning at all, Ill torch her little ass and pry up the back of the engine or something (use the fork lift luke!)
I like it! Sounds little kinky. :D

BobbyB 06-04-2002 10:38 AM

Jason, Glad to hear your on the right track now good luck and keep us posted on the work. Bobby

Bulldog 06-05-2002 01:04 AM

exhaust bolts:

I don't know if you can do this, but on severely mauled exhaust bolt heads I've hammered then welded a grade 8 nut onto the bolt head. This gets the bolt good and hot, too.

I have also welded cheapo box end wrenches onto bolt heads. Once it breaks loose, use the cutoff disc or Mr. sawzall to remove the remains of the wrench.

Motor mounts:

If you can get the dremel to one side of the nut you could also grind through to the bolt.

Good luck, you will prevail. I think the hardware now knows the Apache tribe is ready to kick ass.

Bulldog aka Ronnie

Jayl13 06-05-2002 07:24 AM

Yeah have the boat with me today and towing it at lunch time to Ike's shop in Paoli (about 20-30 min from here)

See what Ike can do , too bad his Apache is not there for me to drool all over
But he did say he has a mound of pics I can look through though.

Hopefully this will come out no problems, yank the second engine, drop it off at the machine shop, and then it is cleaning time
Going to clean out the bilge big time
more sludge in there than a auto junk yards oil disposal conatiner.

Then get paint for the bilge, paint it all up, accent paint all the accessories, rerig all the wiring and sleeve it,
Boom done
(yeah right!)
Ike, see ya soon
Jason

RCM255 06-05-2002 09:39 AM

just think when you're done you'll have a brand new boat:D


Russ

Wild Horses 06-05-2002 09:59 AM

Hummmmm. Heat up the bolts with a torch... opps Did I accidentally drop the torch in that oily bilge.... poof. Problem solved. :D

cuda 06-05-2002 10:10 AM

That's the spirit Jay! Get mean with it. My dad, who taught diesel mechanics in the Navy, always told me I just gotta be tougher than the damn bolt is!:D

Jayl13 06-05-2002 01:27 PM

Well now it is all up to Ike to yank that beast out of there
Dropped the boat off at lunchtime today
First of all
Ike, your family is cool as hell
Second, your guys working for you, are cool as hell too.

Ike, I owe you big time for this
You name it you got it!
See this is why boat guys are cooler than car guys
no question!

Ike, Good luck man, I had none getting that thing out of there so go for it (watch it will be like when you cant open a jar of pickles and you hand it to a friend and they are like SNAP and look at you like your a complete utter moron!)

Thank god for OSO
Jason

Ike 06-05-2002 03:46 PM

Status report on the baja, engine is out and manifold is off. I have done alot of boat engines and have never had the rear mounts that tight . First we tried a mac 1/2" impact gun and did'nt move,then we got out the big dog IR 3/4" impact gun and the first bolt came out but the other did not even move a hair so then we got a 3/4" breaker bar with my floor jack handle and me and eric both had to work it back and forth until we could use the 3/4" gun again. Jason thanks for the kind words and she is ready to go.:)

ps. That is going to be a nice boat when you get it done.

Jayl13 06-05-2002 03:50 PM

Ike, Name the beer, Im bringing you a case tomorrow
This is awesome
Thanks SOOOOOOOOOOO much
Im bringing you all my cars, trucks, boats and everything else
from now on
This is great
I LOVE OSO

Ill be over tomorrow to pick it up (traffic is going to be a mess for me but hey no prob)

IKE thanks sooooooooooo much
Like I said, you name it, FAVOR IN FULL !!!
Jason

bajabob38 06-05-2002 04:05 PM

Jay
glad to hear your luck is turning, Hope to see you out on the water soon!!!:cool:

Jayl13 06-05-2002 04:27 PM

Now to travel all over the area to get the specific color paint for the 2 engines to be redone in (metal flake magenta)
Wife wanted this color, who am I to complain
AND NO COMMENTS FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY
Yeah ill have 2 pink motors!!!!!!!!!
Oh im so pumped now
IKE YOU RULE!!!!!!!!
(im wondering how trashed that bolt and nut are if he put a 3/4 impact gun on it hehehehehehe)
now im going to be down with the sickness!!!!!!

Im so happy im ready to jump out of my skin
WOOHOOO
Yeah bob, we be goin boatin my friend
You get your engines back yet?

My engine builder had 2 yummy 540's sitting there on the floor and I started drooling on them but that will be next boat
Maybe a few merlin blocks and heads, blowers ect
okay im getting ahead of myself here

Guys, thanks SOOOOOOOOOOO much for the help, support and advice-- this was truly a mountain that without OSO i could not have climbed.

and KUDO's to Ike and Ikes automotive and marine
Jason

HiPerf2000 06-05-2002 04:53 PM

You the Man Ike!!

Congrats Jay....Now you got past that little snag, and your one step closer to getting it Finished. Well have to celebrate at Catmandu Sat night ;) :D

Just think of all the fuel money your saving by coming out with us until your boat is done ;)

Anyone else in the Area........D&B + Catmandu (Deleware River) Saturday night????

hauling ass-a 06-05-2002 05:14 PM

Jay, I am good friends with mark(HI PERFORMANCE 2000) let me know if I can help you in any way. I live in southampton about 10 minutes from you. Mark and I will come up there and ripp that pu**y right out. Ihave access to a 3/4" & 1" impact gun and a compressor. Another idea is a palm grinder. My father lives in churchville and is a heavy equipment mechanic I just about have any tool at my disposal! Iremember you and mark talking about your boat in earlier threads. Iwill call mark tonight and find out when we can come over.

HiPerf2000 06-05-2002 05:21 PM


Originally posted by hauling ass-a
Jay, I am good friends with mark(HI PERFORMANCE 2000) let me know if I can help you in any way. I live in southampton about 10 minutes from you. Mark and I will come up there and ripp that pu**y right out. Ihave access to a 3/4" & 1" impact gun and a compressor. Another idea is a palm grinder. My father lives in churchville and is a heavy equipment mechanic I just about have any tool at my disposal! Iremember you and mark talking about your boat in earlier threads. Iwill call mark tonight and find out when we can come over.
Didn't you read the thread you dumbass???? :confused: :D :p Jay took the Boat Ike's Shop and the Motor is already out....Job is already Done by Super Ike!!

If you offer us to Go to his house now, He'll probably want us to help him Wax or something :eek: :D

I'll be helping him install the motors in a couple weeks if you want to help then???
You coming out Saturday night or What ???

cuda 06-05-2002 06:06 PM

Way to step up to the plate Ike!

mxz800 06-05-2002 07:41 PM

Jayson glad to hear you got it out! Ike hopefully someday your good doings will be well rewarded!! glad to see whn a plan works out

Audiofn 06-05-2002 11:38 PM

Way to go IKE!!!! Thank has to put a smile on your face Jay :D:D:D

Jayl13 06-06-2002 07:38 AM

Yeah Im totally pumped to go get her today and bring her home, then drop off the #2 engine that Ike pulled for me and get that over to the engine shop tomorrow.
Yeah Haulin, you want to come over and help me wash out the bilge with Simple Green your more than welcome (my saturday morning agenda)

I dont know you so Im not going to call you a dumb ass like Mark did but I appreciate the offer none the less.
Too old, your right, If it was not for members that can step up to the plate and offer some help this board would more or less be useless to alot of us.

This is totally a labor of love but what do you do when you run into a big snag like this?
CALL IKE!!!!!!
(at least for me anyway)
No that is why im proud to be a member here and happy to lend a hand, advice or a wrench anytime I can for anyone like Ike did for me.
again, thanks all with the help on my project and now I can move forward even more now with the rebuilds, customizing and tweaking and the addition of MORE POWER RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Jason

KAAMA 06-06-2002 08:07 AM

Jason, I'm glad to see it has worked out for you. You may have more obsticles to overcome yet, but it sounds like you have plenty of willing hands of fellow boaters to help you out too.

Ike, that was a cool thing that you did for Jason.

Jason, are the pits in the ports of the heads so severe that you still have to replace them---did Ike see them?

Chris288 06-06-2002 08:10 AM

Hey,,, they pink engines will match the pink stripe going down the side..
 
;) ;) :p :p :D :D

Sean 06-06-2002 09:23 AM

Ike, that certainly was great thing you did for Jayson...way to step up!

MitchStellin 06-06-2002 09:37 AM

You are one lucky man. if I had this Board when I was going thru Hell with my Donzi I would have never bought it and would have a nice Cig, OL, AT, or Formula. That would not be broken and basically a very expensive trailer anchor. This Board is like no other and we love to help others. Good luck and use the Force Luke.:D The OSO Force:D

Jayl13 06-06-2002 02:50 PM

well today I went back to Ikes' shop and picked up my project boat.
He got the engine out of there super fast, and really things this boat will be awesome when I finally finish it.
He showed me pics of his new and old Apache, MAN all I can say is I stood there with this pack of pics in my hand in awe.
This 41 apache has to be the most beautifully airbrushed boat I have ever seen, More than the Outerlimits I have seen.
More attention to detail on this ride than I have ever seen!!!!!

NO ONE builds them like this
NO ONE

Ike my friend, you are going to have the time of your life on that thing, NEVER sell it, there is NO NEED to ever get another boat cause none will ever compare.!!!

(if you do what to sell it I know someone that will trade you for a 1990 baja 280 es with pink engines!!! HEHEHEHE)

If it was not for Ike, I would still be trying to get these bolts out and going stir crazy in my driveway
This is my formal THANKS to Ike for stepping up and helping a OSO brother out
and Ike, Id be proud to meet up with you this summer and hang in MD
You let me know and im there
Forever indebted to you
Jason

BobbyB 06-06-2002 03:14 PM

That what i like to see people helping other people out.

RCM255 06-06-2002 03:24 PM

thanks everybody. i've been helping Jay with this project since
day one. It's good to see the dude happy again. I'm a little
sad myself though. Who's going to pay for gas on my boat now?

HiPerf2000 06-06-2002 03:36 PM

Gas will be cheap compared to Our Bar tab that we will make Jay pay for :D :D

G-Force 06-06-2002 04:40 PM

Nice job Ike! Always good to read this kind of stuff!:D


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