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Originally Posted by kreed
(Post 3451892)
Who would have guessed. Now THATS a sleeper. Problem is, not a sleeper for long, a couple 100 plus passes and the word spreads FAST. Cool boat.
People associate speed with noise. So even at speed it gets over looked by onlookers :drink: But those who know,.........know! Jon |
Originally Posted by cougarman
(Post 3451649)
Yowser!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by check300 30' with a dry sump 6. Here is some more of Check300's :drink: Jon |
Originally Posted by Indy
(Post 3451805)
The drive is worth more than the boat...
LOL I think you could say that about the majority of Hulls compared to the price of a #6 or pair of #6's. But it beats rebuilding drives all the time and actually spending your time boating. Also the saftey and handling is night and day. Jon |
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Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3451819)
I saw the pic of the drive on the back of the boat and no scoop
and thought photo shop ;) Course I knew the only thing that would fit under a flat sun lounge....... No Photo Shop my friend! One of my 5 blades was tested on it,........but the 3 blade in the other two pictures is what his set-up likes best! Custom made by the late Dennis Cavanaugh from Mercury Racing,...........Brett at Bblades has freshend and duplicated a slighty larger one since. Jon |
Agreed....only those who know, and the ones who recognize the drive know.
Notice how low the exhaust is (under water) and you can see why it is so tame sounding. It is nothing new! The boat has been around in very fast form for years now. |
Bet both these boats have more left in them. Amazing how a guy can get so in tune with a boat to run it so far up. If I drove either one I probably could only hit 90mph just because they are one man boats. Have seen the #6 boat and in the water there is no clue. Years of tweaking.
Anyone remember George (Geo) on Donzi Registry that over 5+ years of tweaking got his Donzi X18 up to 123mph w/ 750hp sbc /asd. ? People thought he was done at 108. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKhIXJ0fME |
Interesting 3 blade.
Originally Posted by cougarman
(Post 3452016)
No Photo Shop my friend! One of my 5 blades was tested on it,........but the 3 blade in the other two pictures is what his set-up likes best!
Custom made by the late Dennis Cavanaugh from Mercury Racing,...........Brett at Bblades has freshend and duplicated a slighty larger one since. Jon 3rd picture also shows the massive size of that drive. Wow! I love seeing projects like this with the engineering put through to a different level and then results to match. Pus, I'm a huge turbo fan. I do all my own work and can't even fathom how much time is there :eek: I'd have wing nuts for motor bolts while attempting to make it work. Very, very impressive. Maybe dictionary definition of "sleeper". |
Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3452387)
Similar to a Merc Chopper. Always wondered why more of the Vee's w/bow weight don't run them???
3rd picture also shows the massive size of that drive. Wow! I love seeing projects like this with the engineering put through to a different level and then results to match. Pus, I'm a huge turbo fan. I do all my own work and can't even fathom how much time is there :eek: I'd have wing nuts for motor bolts while attempting to make it work. Very, very impressive. Maybe dictionary definition of "sleeper". Tom Earhart is the master mind behind it all. Tom has been doing turbo's over 25 years. But yes lots of time, labor and passion among great friends. Jon |
I'd like to.....
Originally Posted by cougarman
(Post 3453005)
Tom Earhart is the master mind behind it all.
Tom has been doing turbo's over 25 years. But yes lots of time, labor and passion among great friends. Jon Pic #3, "The Turbo Camp". Bad ass! |
Here yah go....
pretty cool home brewed video in general but watch for the 125 mph GLASTRON! Word is it's alive and well up in Canada.
Not sure how long this link will be active so enjoy it while you can ;) 1994 video so check out some of the classics in the back ground too. BTW, anyone smarter on puters than me?? Can't figure out how to download/save it before it gets vaporized. Normal, right click> save target as doesn't seem to work??? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89e_1310693288 |
Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3453440)
pretty cool home brewed video in general but watch for the 125 mph GLASTRON! Word is it's alive and well up in Canada.
Not sure how long this link will be active so enjoy it while you can ;) 1994 video so check out some of the classics in the back ground too. BTW, anyone smarter on puters than me?? Can't figure out how to download/save it before it gets vaporized. Normal, right click> save target as doesn't seem to work??? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89e_1310693288 Darrell. |
Well said.
Originally Posted by DMOORE
(Post 3453496)
I have always loved that video. I'm a hot rod guy, so when I see something that took a ton of work to make go fast.... I just dig it. All these boats in this thread are proof that with the proper dedication and tools, one can make some bad ass toys.
Darrell. Been wondering lately if anyone realizes or remembers that?? Nothing against the high zoot rigs but seems we are taught we are 2nd class w/o one. The muscle car scene has turned to the same. |
Originally Posted by Twin O/B Sonic
(Post 3453440)
pretty cool home brewed video in general but watch for the 125 mph GLASTRON! Word is it's alive and well up in Canada.
Not sure how long this link will be active so enjoy it while you can ;) 1994 video so check out some of the classics in the back ground too. BTW, anyone smarter on puters than me?? Can't figure out how to download/save it before it gets vaporized. Normal, right click> save target as doesn't seem to work??? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89e_1310693288 |
Is it wrong to revive a 2 year old thread when it was about you? I saw at least five of my buddies comment and not one of them told me about this thread.
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Hmmm... did Check300 make the LOTO Shootout this year? I notice that he and the NV2P1 class winner both have the same first name.
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thanks for bringing it back, i never seen this thread b4. I would like to see a video of the faces if that Glastron were to pull into Loto, same dude long hair and all.:cartman:
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Thats one ROCKIN little boat, congrats on the speed and all the disapointed faces you have passed!
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I do not think Check300 went to LOTO, Bill does have a SWEEET and FAST Checkmate though!
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I hear Bill's new boat is not to shabby, either!
A 21' Checkmate Pulsare w- a stock 300XS was just GPSed at 104 mph. That is hauling the mail in a SOB. |
Originally Posted by offshorexcursion
(Post 3999626)
I do not think Check300 went to LOTO, Bill does have a SWEEET and FAST Checkmate though!
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Thanks Don, It has been a lot of fun! And for the non Believers.. for what it is worth.. It is true. It ran mid nineties on motor and 106mph (every time) on the hit. It was a 632 cubic inch engine that made 880hp normally aspirated and I was adding another 250hp of Nitrous. There was another one faster than me though. His name is Mathew Gilbert from Fairfax Va. he had a Checkmate 242 with a blower motor and spray that ran 112mph.
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Originally Posted by Raylar
(Post 3448627)
If you look carefully at those pictures you can see some of the tell tale signs of a fast performance v-hull:
1. The hull at speed has a near perfect running angle, attitude and stern lift which is what makes the running surface patch as small as possible and allows those kinds of speeds. Less running surface in the water at speed lowers drag and allows higher speeds. If any boater can set his good hull up to run like this at speed, he will always see better speeds than those who don't! 2. The tach shows an rpm of over 6500 rpms, so with good power and torque at that prop speed its possible to turn the prop fast enough with reasonable slip numbers to get a prop speed to move the boat at those kinds of speeds. 3. Not knowing items like hull lay up and coring and overall hull weights or interiors for overall boat weights, its a guess, but I would suspect this little boat is on the light side for a 27 foot V! No crazy mad science or real secrets here, just good overall package engineering and build which can usually net these kinds of results in a good well designed v-hull performance boat. Also keep in mind this package probably does not accelerate like a bat out of hell and could probably be a little tough to handle in rougher water conditions. Ultimate speed and top end performance is usually a series of tradeoffs used to acheive those kinds of results. In any event , great job of putting together a nice performing v-hull speedster and if someone is looking to move into a small water rocket this could be great buy, provided you are also ready to spend a good dollar on the engine and drive package it takes to push this puppy that fast! Best Regards, Ray @ Raylar |
[QUOTE=X-Driver;3999651]I hear Bill's new boat is not to shabby, either!
Not to Shabby at all! You never know where it might show up!! :bunnydance: |
Is a 242 Checkmate generally a pretty fast hull, sorta like how velocity's run fast without a ton of hp? what kinda speed do they run with 454 mags/502 mags when stock? The reason I ask is I was running along side a acquaintance at hot boat shoot out with my 272 Baja and I was clocking him somewhere between 83-85 or so on my GPS and he has a warmed over 454 mag with a m-1 running 8 psi of boost and its not tuned real great /he's not a motor guy at all and I would have guessed his top speed being a lot closer to 75-78. It took a m-3 on a 540 at 10-11 psi of boost to get my 272 into the mid 80's before I built my current package , Smitty
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Our experience is it takes a significant amount of bottom work to take a 60-70 MPH boat to 100 MPH + and have stability, balance and control.
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I would not say that the 242 is a very fast hull as far a efficiency goes. I can tell you for a fact that it takes at least 700hp to go 85 mph. A stock 454mag (365hp) will go 65mph and for every mile per hour after that it will take you about 17 to 20hp. My 242 weighed 4800lbs. My guess is that there are more efficient hulls out there, But they are all very close with an exception of a few.
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Originally Posted by Pure Energy
(Post 3448670)
Something fishy. The pick of the GPS and tach is with the key off. A 242 checkmate is NOT 26' or 27' long. I had a '98 253 with a procharged 502 and it was not stable @ 78 mph!! Maybe someone can crunch the numbers on what amount of power and what prop it would take to push it that fast and how long the drive would last. Also, it looks waaaaay too clean for a '97. 106 mph in a 24' boat not designed for those speeds......I don't believe it.
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Originally Posted by Pure Energy
(Post 3448670)
Something fishy. The pick of the GPS and tach is with the key off. A 242 checkmate is NOT 26' or 27' long. I had a '98 253 with a procharged 502 and it was not stable @ 78 mph!! Maybe someone can crunch the numbers on what amount of power and what prop it would take to push it that fast and how long the drive would last. Also, it looks waaaaay too clean for a '97. 106 mph in a 24' boat not designed for those speeds......I don't believe it.
So, Pure Energy... Thank you for the compliment on how well I have taken care of my boat. The new owner is very happy about it too. Lenn |
Originally Posted by Pure Energy
(Post 3448670)
Something fishy. The pick of the GPS and tach is with the key off. A 242 checkmate is NOT 26' or 27' long. I had a '98 253 with a procharged 502 and it was not stable @ 78 mph!! Maybe someone can crunch the numbers on what amount of power and what prop it would take to push it that fast and how long the drive would last. Also, it looks waaaaay too clean for a '97. 106 mph in a 24' boat not designed for those speeds......I don't believe it.
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Originally Posted by Katt Nipp
(Post 3999814)
I would not say that the 242 is a very fast hull as far a efficiency goes. I can tell you for a fact that it takes at least 700hp to go 85 mph. A stock 454mag (365hp) will go 65mph and for every mile per hour after that it will take you about 17 to 20hp. My 242 weighed 4800lbs. My guess is that there are more efficient hulls out there, But they are all very close with an exception of a few.
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Good job Smitty! Your numbers are right in line with mine. Do you know the weight of your boat? not the advertised weight the actual weight without the trailer. The reason I ask is that I also failed to mention for every 100lbs I lose or gain 1mph.
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Where are you located Smitty?
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Originally Posted by Katt Nipp
(Post 3999862)
Where are you located Smitty?
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The reason I asked about your location is because we are having another shootout at Caesar Creek lake here in Ohio. If it wasn't so far you might enjoy it. We usually have some pretty good runners.
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The Caesar Creek Shootout will be on October 5th.
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GPM asked me quite a few years ago to come and it always seems like a weekend where I am forced to work in the past. I had a spring mount tear out of my trailer frame on way home from hotboat this year and have a major exhaust leak on the boat to find too , haven't had time to even take a look yet at the boat or trailer since then and been working 7 12's for past few weeks at night job and swamped with transmission jobs at my day business so won't be this year either but it does sound like fun!! At hot boat this year I ended up racing several different catamarans and no v-hulls, kept up with a most of the cats until they got up into the 90's and they all walked me, some pretty fast Checkmates at the hot boat shoot out too, saw Check 300 there with his new 43 foot boat, saw some of the other Checkmates that I know run into the 90's and funny thing was they wanted no part of me or were having issues and even funnier was the set-up I was running was only getting me 92-93 so it would have actually been a good close race, Smitty
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