Offshoreonly.com

Offshoreonly.com (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/)
-   General Boating Discussion (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion-51/)
-   -   Opinions Please. Mercury or Ilmor (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/259088-opinions-please-mercury-ilmor.html)

Swede 11-18-2011 01:15 PM

I've always been a Merc fan but after riding in NASCAT at virtually wide open for an hour straight on the Key West Run I would have to say Ilmors rock!!!

A.O. Razor 11-18-2011 03:40 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here is a price list.

Besides that, the comparable price would be with the NXT/SSM combo and not the NXT1 drive. The Indy is much closer to a #6 than a NXT1, since both are rated at roughly the same power (1000 hp/tq Indy and 1100 hp/tq #6) and are "true" surface drives. Where as the NXT1 is somewhat of a combo rated for 800 hp.

stainless 11-18-2011 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Swede (Post 3552642)
I've always been a Merc fan but after riding in NASCAT at virtually wide open for an hour straight on the Key West Run I would have to say Ilmors rock!!!

+1!

Uncle Dave 11-18-2011 09:03 PM

With the same load spread across more cylinders the Ilmors can rock balls for extended periods of time.

Nascats rig isnt just awesome, its extremely low maintenance after the indy Mods and extremely efficient.

Lets also not forget Ilmor allows separation of the drive and engine with qualified 3rd parties.

Mercs refusal to split the combo under any circumstance will cost them sales.


Uncle Dave

techman 11-19-2011 06:33 AM

What is Ilmor's plan for V-10 stock moving foward? As I understand it they had Dodge build them a run of blocks just before the Viper line shutdown. Not sure how many units that was in total. But I would assume until Fiat/Chrylster decides on the Viper's fate the V10 block inventory will eventually run out. Maybe a 3rd party will pick up the V10 production?

stainless 11-19-2011 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by techman (Post 3553046)
What is Ilmor's plan for V-10 stock moving foward? As I understand it they had Dodge build them a run of blocks just before the Viper line shutdown. Not sure how many units that was in total. But I would assume until Fiat/Chrylster decides on the Viper's fate the V10 block inventory will eventually run out. Maybe a 3rd party will pick up the V10 production?

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/01/m...ngine-at-sema/

IlmorGirl 11-30-2011 03:29 PM

Techman, it's a good question, but we've got everyone covered.

The new Gen IV engines are mostly comprised of Ilmor modified parts anyway, and for the Gen IIIs, we find other sources for parts no longer offered by Chrysler.

Don't worry... The V10s are here to stay for a long time!

NASCAT 11-30-2011 03:33 PM

IlmorGirl?? Shouldn't it be IlmorDudette??

OL40SVX 11-30-2011 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by IlmorGirl (Post 3560946)
Techman, it's a good question, but we've got everyone covered.

The new Gen IV engines are mostly comprised of Ilmor modified parts anyway, and for the Gen IIIs, we find other sources for parts no longer offered by Chrysler.

Don't worry... The V10s are here to stay for a long time!

We'll be keeping ours for a very long time!!:D

C_Spray 11-30-2011 04:20 PM

Boating Mag Ilmor article
Looks like a 725/Indy is $4,100 less than a 700/NXT. What would the savings be over a 700/Six package?

Under the "Clearance" section of their web site, Ilmor's offering a killer deal on a pair of used 10-hour Indy drives with transmissions, all upgraded to the latest spec: $52,000/OBO. That's a great upgrade opportunity for someone.

wrinkleface 12-01-2011 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by IlmorGirl (Post 3560946)
Techman, it's a good question, but we've got everyone covered.

The new Gen IV engines are mostly comprised of Ilmor modified parts anyway, and for the Gen IIIs, we find other sources for parts no longer offered by Chrysler.

Don't worry... The V10s are here to stay for a long time!

do U work at the factory???

IlmorGirl 12-01-2011 08:21 AM

Yes, I do!

And IlmorDude does too!

IlmorDonzi 12-01-2011 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by IlmorGirl (Post 3561468)
Yes, I do!

And IlmorDude does too!

Lori ??????

wrinkleface 12-01-2011 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by IlmorGirl (Post 3561468)
Yes, I do!

And IlmorDude does too!

did I meet U when I was down talk'n 2 Ian???? Dr. T

JIMKID Motorsports 12-01-2011 10:10 AM

Hay trace saw your boat today looks good why helm on port side just wondering good luck

wrinkleface 12-01-2011 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by JIMKID Motorsports (Post 3561561)
Hay trace saw your boat today looks good why helm on port side just wondering good luck

U been hang'n round that bald headed fat guy 2 much!!!! Don't quit your day job Bubba!!!!:grinser010::evilb:

customryder 12-01-2011 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3560953)
We'll be keeping ours for a very long time!!:D

is your boat for sale.. ? i thought i saw it on ol web classifieds.

A.O. Razor 12-02-2011 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by IlmorDonzi (Post 3561515)
Lori ??????

No. Jessica

IlmorGirl 12-02-2011 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3562187)
No. Jessica

That's right!

OL40SVX 12-02-2011 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by customryder (Post 3562120)
is your boat for sale.. ? i thought i saw it on ol web classifieds.

If someone wants it we'll sell it for the right price. If it goes we'd like to stay with Ilmors!

A.O. Razor 12-02-2011 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3562248)
If someone wants it we'll sell it for the right price. If it goes we'd like to stay with Ilmors!

And if it goes. what is the plan then?

Steet 12-04-2011 04:25 PM

I think the old merc stuff was fairly reliable. I have not seen
much out of the merc factory for the past 2 years that I thought was very reliable. Ilmor is a stand up company and
still put the dollars into their motor/drive programs. From what I have seen and heard, Mercury is starting to cut corners and warranty issues are a real problem now.
If I was building a new boat, it would definitely be Ilmor

stainless 12-04-2011 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3561383)
do U work at the factory???

Ilmordude and ilmorgirl rock!

onesickpantera 12-05-2011 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3478886)
How the heck can you be a performance boater, or any type of gearhead and not know Ilmor???:eekdrop: Spooky, brrr.

Most people on this board are diehards so they have not only heard of Ilmor but are also familiar with their products. Out there in the real world that is not the case.

That being said, I think we will see that change over the next few years. I can tell you that living in Michigan it would be a no-brainer for me if I was building a new boat with 600-700hp engines, Ilmor all the way.

raptureman 11-29-2012 11:41 AM

I've been boating for 25 years but not in high performance. I plan on running my 5.0 MPI's in my cruiser for more than 1000 hrs w/o rebuilding as i do change oil every 50 hrs. I run 3500 to 4500 rpm consistently. When a previous post mentioned the Ilmor's getting 500 to 700 hrs before rebuilding, I'm just wondering why this would be necessary. The boat I'm looking at has a single 625 Ilmor. I'm fairly certain I won't run over 4500rpm for long stretches ever though these can run 6000Rpm's. Is the rebuilding simply part of the cost of any high performance motor???

HALLETT FAN 11-29-2012 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=Is the rebuilding simply part of the cost of any high performance motor???[/QUOTE]

Yes !

cp5899 11-29-2012 02:25 PM

500-700 hours out of a 600-700hp n/a motor is a long time. 1000 hours out of a 330hp stock 7.4 is not unheard of in a cruiser. My dad had a 330 7.4 in a shrimp boat in the late 80's that seemed to run forever. It got run all day everyday between crab and shrimp season for years!!! Who knows how many hours it had. But that same 7.4 or even 502 based engine making 6-700hp won't see nearly the same amount of hours before needing some freshening up.

I'm not all that familiar with the Ilmor v-10 packages but I do have some knowledge of the viper v-10 and those motors are a beast!! I've seen them take a beating with out a problem. Call me crazy but I love the sound of a viper!!!

Uncle Dave 11-29-2012 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by raptureman (Post 3823525)
I've been boating for 25 years but not in high performance. I plan on running my 5.0 MPI's in my cruiser for more than 1000 hrs w/o rebuilding as i do change oil every 50 hrs. I run 3500 to 4500 rpm consistently. When a previous post mentioned the Ilmor's getting 500 to 700 hrs before rebuilding, I'm just wondering why this would be necessary. The boat I'm looking at has a single 625 Ilmor. I'm fairly certain I won't run over 4500rpm for long stretches ever though these can run 6000Rpm's. Is the rebuilding simply part of the cost of any high performance motor???

It is.

One can look at the cost of a high end boat in a very similar fashion to an airplane- the closer one gets to rebuild time the less price one can get for the rig.

Performance NA mills hammer the valve-train spinning high RPM's for long periods of time.

For a sake of comparison on the high end of Mercury super cat 850's and earlier blown mills run on a solid roller cams "ask" for valve lash inspections every 15-25 hours. See Mercs own guidelines for maintenance and rebuilds.

http://www.mercuryracing.com/_media/pdf/freshenup.pdf

The Ilmors have 20% more surface area to spread X amount of hp across thereby reducing load per cylinder compared to a V8.
A simple leak down test should tell you how relatively fresh the mill is and you may get many more hours between rebuilds than 6-700.

500 hours is a typical cycle for the top end of a 500+HP Marine V8.

Uncle Dave


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:02 PM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.