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Originally Posted by 78CIG24
(Post 3532171)
Probably not...there was sometimes just a heck of a lot more of them in a row, for much greater distances, when racing truly "Offshore". :-)
Of course in reality, the "waves" everyone discusses here aren't really "WAVES".... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ASvFEmMuk Regardless, GREAT PICS and THANKS for sharing!! |
Originally Posted by sean stinson
(Post 3532959)
I guess the point is that EVOLUTION has taken its course in offshore racing and no matter if you race long or short rough phucking water is rough phucking water....God I need some coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:kiss::kiss::kiss:
But yeah, pass that pipe this way...AND the coffee too...in the old days that is what we called "Designer Drugs" .... LOL Cheers, Dave |
At the expense of ruffling those of "us" futuristic types, I'd rather hear tales of yesteryear than those about some high horsepower "offshore" boat running a timed mile on some lake.
Sorry, running laps on a closed circuit has never interested me, no disrespect to those that undertake that pursuit. Maybe the "me's" are on to something considering the lack of support for the sport today. |
Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix
(Post 3532976)
Am I the only one that wonders who was SHOOTING that video?
But Yeah, I wondered the same thing...also wondered if it was "Movie Magic" or not. Regardless, it is a reflection of what it can be like in the REAL Offshore World. |
Originally Posted by 78CIG24
(Post 3532977)
I love Evolution too...but I will say we got tossed out of the boat a lot less when we were still on all fours....there are some negatives to this upright walking Evolution thing the young'uns forced on us.
But yeah, pass that pipe this way...AND the coffee too...in the old days that is what we called "Designer Drugs" .... LOL Cheers, Dave |
Originally Posted by 78CIG24
(Post 3532977)
I love Evolution too...but I will say we got tossed out of the boat a lot less when we were still on all fours....there are some negatives to this upright walking Evolution thing the young'uns forced on us.
But yeah, pass that pipe this way...AND the coffee too...in the old days that is what we called "Designer Drugs" .... LOL Cheers, Dave |
Originally Posted by sean stinson
(Post 3533004)
... who knows or who cares BUT awww forget it whats the point!!!!!
http://www.mrkstyle.com/wp-content/u...xpo1_500-2.jpg Pass it please! |
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Originally Posted by BROWNIE
(Post 3532861)
I wrote a story several years ago for Hot Boat magazine (One of several rags that I was able to put out of business) about the dawn of OCEAN powerboat racing: The opening line was "The original batch of modern day offshore racers was a rough group. Tobacco stained teeth missing, tattooed, hairy, muscles bulging, scraggly beards, brawling, nasty, cussing, and that was just the women!
Bear in mind that neither the Bikini nor the racing jump suit had been invented at that point. Racing uniforms were usually bear skins, and in Odell Lewis's case, the bear was still in it! My first raceboat was a hollowed out missionary.... but I ramble. THE AVERAGE WAVE HEIGHT IN THE 1956 NASSAU RACE WAS 133 FEET, AND THAT WAS IN THE FLATS! If you don't believe me, ask Sammy James. The thing I love about Brownie, is that he always has his priorities in order....note above, that he Capitalized the word BIKINI. And here is a shot of Sammy James that he speaks about....doing his thing back when the waves were much smaller, as we can see here......a picture is worth a zillion words. |
Originally Posted by sean stinson
(Post 3533004)
I think it was the last 2 times getting chucked out of the F2 Cig that scrambled my wiring a bit
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...g5.jpg2003.jpg
Originally Posted by Top Banana
(Post 3533015)
And here is a shot of Sammy James that he speaks about....doing his thing back when the waves were much smaller, as we can see here......a picture is worth a zillion words.
No matter how many times I see that shot, it is still great to see. THANKS! Wish we could find the original and enhance it...would make a great poster !! Cheers, Dave |
Originally Posted by Top Banana
(Post 3533015)
The thing I love about Brownie, is that he always has his priorities in order....note above, that he Capitalized the word BIKINI.
And here is a shot of Sammy James that he speaks about....doing his thing back when the waves were much smaller, as we can see here......a picture is worth a zillion words. |
Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me
(Post 3533043)
Nothing like a boat being picked up on radar at the control tower! :coolcowboy:
OH wait...I forgot that was Real Offshore, so I doubt there was anyone else (not racing) that far "offshore" to have taken the "water level" shot... :-) On a serious note, it is such a great shot that truly shows the nature of men and machines against the Ocean back then. Seems peaceful, almost "heavenly", to see it like that... BUT, I would loved to have seen the landing! :eek: |
YES, the waves were definitely bigger. We also had to run the whole course uphill in the snow with no shoes on.
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Originally Posted by 78CIG24
(Post 3532972)
No Cozy enclosed fighter cockpits, no harnesss (and sometimes no helmets)....just big balls!!
Cheers, Dave I am willing to bet the guys running 150+++ today have just as big a set as your "yesteryear" friends. The difference is they can come home in one piece, still breathing, from MUCH more serious incidents than your "elders". Don't knock the advancements, your "big balls" guys would've used anything to feel safer and go faster if it was available. Now, me and my few years of experience will crawl back in my hole so you can ask WTF do I know. :party-smiley-004: |
Originally Posted by Cash Bar
(Post 3533104)
At a time when 60-70 was "fast" those things may have seemed a million miles from necessary.
I am willing to bet the guys running 150+++ today have just as big a set as your "yesteryear" friends. The difference is they can come home in one piece, still breathing, from MUCH more serious incidents than your "elders". Don't knock the advancements, your "big balls" guys would've used anything to feel safer and go faster if it was available. Now, me and my few years of experience will crawl back in my hole so you can ask WTF do I know. :party-smiley-004: Cheers, Dave |
Old vs. new
I think that anyone who goes 200 mph in a frickin' boat has a set of titanium stones. Even the girls..........
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Originally Posted by Nauti Kitty
(Post 3532336)
While thats true they might feel different about smaller waves at 100
Both situations seem intense to me NK Just to bump the thread, & give my own experience with Nauti Kitty; he has ran ALL of his boats 18ft-41ft Donzis, Cigarettes, Sutphens, Skaters, Sabers, etc, in some of the biggest, scariest water that Lake Michigan has rolled out. I've personally been with him & his boys 5-6 times in water that destroyed other boats along for the ride, & Nauti's equipment showed no signs of giving in. He is also a hell of a driver in rough conditions, due to the vast experience he's given himself by running those waters 3-4 times a week for years when time allowed. I remember him calling many times on WEDNESDAY's at work, getting ready to go "tackle some 4-6's" by himself for a few hours just for fun. I'm not here to exaggerate because I've ran my share of what would be considered big water in my 38 Cigarette & 368 Skater in the ocean, Great Lakes, & even some rough lakes around the country like loto. Nauti Kitty would be the first person I'd jump in with for an offshore run to the Key's with a hurricane approaching given the chance. As far as Sutphens go: I'm guessing out of hilarity, he has not mentioned that he owned & ran one of the fastest Sutphens on the water through all of the conditions listed above, so his opinions are based on first hand experience in the nicest equipment money can buy from all of the top brands. Nauti Kitty could be known as one of the kings of running true offshore waters when they are at their worst. I've experienced it with him, & a slew of others through my years of performance boating, & he is no joke or exaggeration of any kind when it comes to these discussions. He lives real life offshore boating, and not internet or 1940's offshore boating. Long live Ancestral Spirit! http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9940/saber411.jpg |
After spending last night with the OFF participants last night, and in years past, getting to know the Odell Lewises, the Brownies, Bobby Saccente, Rich Lhrs etc. I can honestly say offshore racers of today and yesterday are all cut from the same cloth and I am a huge fan of them and the racers of today.
Scotty B |
Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing
(Post 3532098)
Hmmm
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Had a lot of fun watching Geico caveman V hull let it all hang out in the final race. Wish there were some pictures of that. Really nice to of met Scott at the parade saturday. Hope I can make it again next year.
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Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing
(Post 3533173)
After spending last night with the OFF participants last night, and in years past, getting to know the Odell Lewises, the Brownies, Bobby Saccente, Rich Lhrs etc. I can honestly say offshore racers of today and yesterday are all cut from the same cloth and I am a huge fan of them and the racers of today.
Scotty B |
AMEN !!!
Truth is ,, That wether it was in 1956 or 2011 All these ,and those competitors ran on the edge with what they had or have now .:musik010: ( except Ken Warby he,s on his own planet ,no one will come near his record for a long time to come . IMO ) |
[QUOTE=CigDaze;3532218]Awesome shots!!! You go, guys.
There are those of us who write the future and then there are those who write history books; they are the same people who just simply don't know how to cope with the expiration of their relevance and they are sadly relegated to languishing in the dismal past. .... ... .. . that just about covers every man in every sport since time began . It,s a disease called aging, You will probably catch it as well I hope :evilb: |
BLee Thanks for the kind words and right back at ya. You still own my personal best for fastest ride ever in your capable hands.
I was thinking the other day during a different thread about people going out in rough water ect and all you racers can surely attest to this. Even though I love going out in big waves I always have the opportunity to dial it back, change course and just in general push it as far as I am comfortable with considering my skills and my boat Racers dont have that luxury. They go in the direction they need to go regardless of the conditions as fast as they can and that can make big waves far more dangerous than the same waves we weekend boaters run. It gives every one of them the title of big balls champs regardless whether they are running 60-70 in smaller boats or 150 in the big dogs. Hats off to the skills all of you possess to make that commitment now and in the past. As a side note, although I have never raced and never will I have met and watched a lot of racers and ask any of them that have ever raced on Lake Michigan, Huron and Erie and they probably have a story about the waves. Not a 133 feet mind you but fairly significant nontheless. NK |
Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing
(Post 3533173)
After spending last night with the OFF participants last night, and in years past, getting to know the Odell Lewises, the Brownies, Bobby Saccente, Rich Lhrs etc. I can honestly say offshore racers of today and yesterday are all cut from the same cloth and I am a huge fan of them and the racers of today.
Scotty B |
Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
(Post 3533256)
Do some of them seem "bitter"? :D :drink: :drink::drink::drink::drink:
It's one of your more admirable qualities.:drink: |
Originally Posted by Matt Trulio
(Post 3533299)
You are such a s-disturber.
It's one of your more admirable qualities.:drink: |
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmLp_bZ9uAo&feature=channel_video_title[/YOUTUBE]
Brownie at work. |
Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
(Post 3532201)
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Originally Posted by BROWNIE
(Post 3532861)
I wrote a story several years ago for Hot Boat magazine (One of several rags that I was able to put out of business) about the dawn of OCEAN powerboat racing: The opening line was "The original batch of modern day offshore racers was a rough group. Tobacco stained teeth missing, tattooed, hairy, muscles bulging, scraggly beards, brawling, nasty, cussing, and that was just the women!
Bear in mind that neither the Bikini nor the racing jump suit had been invented at that point. Racing uniforms were usually bear skins, and in Odell Lewis's case, the bear was still in it! My first raceboat was a hollowed out missionary.... but I ramble. THE AVERAGE WAVE HEIGHT IN THE 1956 NASSAU RACE WAS 133 FEET, AND THAT WAS IN THE FLATS! If you don't believe me, ask Sammy James. |
Rough water, rough guys
Remember in the movie, "The Perfect Storm", in the last couple of minutes of the movie, whe the Andrea Gale was climbing the vetrical face of the big wave? If you looked real close, on the back side of that wave, Odell Lewis and Mel Riggs were fishing in a 14' skiff............
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Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing
(Post 3532949)
Hmmmm..Have they changed all that much? I've thrown in some pics of the "old bears" ....btw Odel's still got that bear and he's trying to pawn it off on us......we want nothing to do with it. :)
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In the spirit of cooperation between the ages may I say that I agree with each of you........
Except the dumb ones. T2x |
Originally Posted by BROWNIE
(Post 3535152)
Remember in the movie, "The Perfect Storm", in the last couple of minutes of the movie, whe the Andrea Gale was climbing the vetrical face of the big wave? If you looked real close, on the back side of that wave, Odell Lewis and Mel Riggs were fishing in a 14' skiff............
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Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3536185)
In the spirit of cooperation between the ages may I say that I agree with each of you........
Except the dumb ones. T2x Yes..I agree. In this spirit we are resurrecting Brownies 14 ft Jersey speed skiff and powering it with a single 4000 hp turbine and racing it from Miami to the Bahamas around Long Island past Point Pleasant and back to Miami. Where we will be greeted by 79 virgins cheering our return from our high seas adventure. |
Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing
(Post 3536284)
Yes..I agree.
In this spirit we are resurrecting Brownies 14 ft Jersey speed skiff and powering it with a single 4000 hp turbine and racing it from Miami to the Bahamas around Long Island past Point Pleasant and back to Miami. Where we will be greeted by 79 virgins cheering our return from our high seas adventure. |
Originally Posted by dammmagnum
(Post 3536323)
Aren't Jersey Speed Skiffs 16 feet long.. Still it would be a great ride
Yes...however, after our last skiff adventure..... there is only 14 ft left. |
Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing
(Post 3536284)
Yes..I agree.
In this spirit we are resurrecting Brownies 14 ft Jersey speed skiff and powering it with a single 4000 hp turbine and racing it from Miami to the Bahamas around Long Island past Point Pleasant and back to Miami. Where we will be greeted by 79 virgins cheering our return from our high seas adventure. :drink: http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/im...73022606-4.jpg |
Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing
(Post 3536403)
Yes...however, after our last skiff adventure.....
there is only 14 ft left. http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/im...21751043-4.jpg http://sharkeyimages.zenfolio.com/im...59499754-4.jpg |
Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing
(Post 3536403)
Yes...however, after our last skiff adventure.....
there is only 14 ft left. |
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