needs more steps and a bigger bussel....my .02 cents.....:)

I knew that, just trying to add some humor in the midst of the "other stuff".. keep on making nice boats and pay no attention to me :-)

Dave

Dolla, me too. Why?

I'm not gonna buy one. Shiit, I build boats. I surely can't afford to buy one!

:lolhit::lolhit::party-smiley-004::evilb:

Any more steps and that thing would be an escalator LMAO

Say what you will about the bottom and bussle, but it would appear that hull is about the best running and fastest vee out there right now. After seeing one in person, IMO it's one of the sexiest vee's on the water too.

With that said, I also find this marketing marriage a little strange... and almost degrading to OL! :eek: J/K Ciggy fans... :drink:

My escalator thing is just a joke. If it runs... it runs. But it's degrading to The DA brands

Its a little Odd all these years i had to hear how much better they were than all the Cigs and here they are trying to use the founder of Cigarette to sell some boats. Thats just my thoughts .

+100. Well the leasing program @ $8000/MO didnt pan out LOL

funniest thread on oso!!! whats boating coming to?:lolhit:

It does look nice.

I cant imagine that OL gets to paste that name on their boat for free.

This probably has more to do with this symbol.....$$.......than it has to do with heritage, history, Don's wishes or anything else.

Your Screen name say's it all

beautiful boat but its kinda like putting the camaro hockey stripes on a mustang the one good thing i can see possibly coming out of this is hopefully there will be some guys showing up to the arnow memorial race with their cigs to compete next year

L M Balls Off

Re-reading my article won't help you guys with the questions you've raised on copyright infringement. What I wrote about was the plans of Michael Aronow and Michael Fiore to release a Don Aronow Limited Edition Outerlimits. Nothing more and or less. (And I did list the 525EFI engines as base power ... I even started the sentence with "Base power is ..." Then again, it's Friday and it can be very hard to read with beer goggles.)

I am not a lawyer, something that—all apologies to my attorney cousin who is one of my best friends—I take pride in. Copyright is complex. For example, the use of the "1" everyone is talking about may (or may not) only be copyright infringement if it's used with the words "Cigarette World Champion." A different font for the "1' than the one used by Cigarette could be enough for it not to be infringement. I have no idea.

But I do know that Michael Fiore and Michael Aronow were inspired by what Joe Cibellis and Joe Sgro did in a SV43 Outerlimits in the Don Aronow Memorial Around Long Island race. That's what I know.

So it's basically just a paint job?

I wonder how much cheaper it would be to buy a white 43 OL and have it painted in this theme yourself rather than buying an "edition" boat?

Wow, I have to scratch me head over this one... Very cool boat but, Just dont quit grasp the idea.....
Jr.

Can we have a Ben Kramer edition next month too? :D

Pat,
Are you suggesting the hull isn't that fast? If so, please name another true 38+ foot offshore vee (hell, make 36'+) that comes close to running with this 43 with equal power.

And while I agree any stepped hull boat if pushed too hard while turning will spin (there's a 37 AT around the corner from me to prove it!), I'm yet to see one of these 43's spin. Furthermore, what's the point of running around 'pins' and measuring g's in a boat like this? If someone is looking to run around in circles IMO they should be looking at another type of boat... Again IMO, boats like your AT's and these OL's are meant for open water running, not running around a skid-pad.

hahaha :food-smiley-007:

im confused too...is it merely a new paint scheme offered or a new hull altogether?

The 37 didn't spin out. It crashed and burned. Kids....go figure.

My point simply is power for power there aren't really any real tests like Car and Driver. We had them 15 years ago but no longer.

Why?

And the point to a testing? Lives.

We've never lost one.

The 37 AT did spin (and roll, and go for a bath, etc), but yes the guys were :food-smiley-009: at the time and learned their lesson the hard way that you can't turn a boat to sharply... I heard a second 37 AT spun and is now in CT too.

Regardless of the lack of magazine articles, it's hard to argue the that this isn't the fastest hull out there right now in its size range. If there's a faster better running vee in this size, I'd love to see it.

I dont get how this is any honour to DA.

If Chevy brought out a tribute car to Dale Earnhardt it surely wouldnt have a 6 cyl engine in it.

Why isnt this limited edition boat, being built with DA type power.

lack of equal comparison. First let's see straight line speed and go from there.

Weight, true LOA vs. HP.

Base power is 525. Power options are unlimited as I posted before.

Funny, its the only boat I've ever been in that I felt comfortable at 160mph in, while looking down at 2 laptops. Seems like it was working pretty good all the times I've ridden in them.

Also one of the main reasons why my OL SV43 will be done soon. Beautiful lines, incredible speed and an amazing ride.

Next month they will offer the boat with vertical stripes and call it the "Ben Kramer" edition

Ummmm.....

http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/...t/viewall.html

I think he was more of an opportunist.

I think its a great idea, and wish OL the best! Many of you may not really understand who DA was and how he thought about business. Its very easy to see whats on the surface of his history. Fast boats, wins, etc. What I have studied about DA as an undergraduate student in business is his interests are far beyond just those items that everyone sees or wants to see.

For example, Don was a business man. I think he would enjoy the idea of his Son bringing attention to the family name as well as the progression of offshore boating. He was mature in his business ideas and therefore wouldn't be upset that skip didn't take the chance. Someone did and that is most important.

525 hp. THis is a great choice, to show off how fast a base powered boat runs on 87 octane and a warranty! These mills will run forever at 6250 or whatever they rpm. This would lower costs and increase sales - A DA must have for any business. Back in the 70s 80s when cigarettes where selling like hot cakes, the boats that where most selling where not the extravagant 3a 700hp boats, it was the base TRS 260 0r 330 hp, those got the sales and kept the business going and people employed.

Does it seem like OL jumped the shark a little? who knows, but their rigging, style and tech have come very far.

keep in mind many manufactures have used their competitors to build boats. I know many fountains that where built at the skater plant, even one special cigarette, the fastest cig was made in douglas.

Good luck OL, MA, et al. Don would be proud.

Thats it.....make a liar out of me with facts . LOL

[QUOTE=OL40SVX;3533447]Skip has no rights to the name Don Aronow. Problem solved. It's been a pleasure to work with Michael Aronow and making this boat

If Active Thunder did that I might be interested. You could have secret storage areas in the cuddy.


As for the rest you guys are reading to much into this.

Mike Fiore is the owner and creator of Outerlimits Powerboats. I don't own or never said I own the company. My paycheck every week does say Outerlimits Offshore Powerboats though.:D Carry on.......

And while we're building awkwardly named tribute boats, make it a center console cat :drink:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe one of the first boats Don Aronow produced (by the way, he hired designers ... I'm not sure that he actually designed a boat) was ... a center console.

That's what we call "full circle," my friends.

Due to my lack of attention span, I stopped reading after page 3, so if what I'm saying was already said, then I apologize. Why would anyone have a problem with Outerlimits doing this project, especially with the blessing of Don's son? I know it's a business deal, but why not Outerlimits? They have been a stand-up company for many years now and they have earned the right to represent the Aronow name. OL builds boats that, in my opinion, Don would be very proud of. I just wish he was still around to tell us. Good luck OL, keep up the good work.

You're definitely not wrong because I don't think there's a specific "style" of boat that Don didn't build.

He built everything from 16-40+ foot cruisers, runabouts, performance boats, cats, & center consoles with his various companies.... some nice, and some ugly as hell that ran terrible.

I think the issue here is that he's most attributed with building Cigarette's to the majority, so Outerlimits building a tribute boat to him just seems odd to some.

It makes no difference to me what the hell they put his name on, because if he were around & still wanted to be the fastest man on the water, he'd be in a cat going "full circle" around all of his former antiquated designs.