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Old 12-21-2011, 07:49 PM
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You are stictly thinking OEM cost of engine packages. You have a bunch of expense in rigging Hi-Perf engines vs. standard pakcages.

Plus if the difference of cost is say $30k we are going to make 30% on the extra $30k which brings it to $39k.

Profit is not a dirty word.
I was just taking a guess. I know it's not $8k!

And I agree profit is not a dirty word.

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Old 12-21-2011, 09:17 PM
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You are stictly thinking OEM cost of engine packages. You have a bunch of expense in rigging Hi-Perf engines vs. standard pakcages.

Plus if the difference of cost is say $30k we are going to make 30% on the extra $30k which brings it to $39k.

Profit is not a dirty word.
What exactly is the rigging difference in a 8.2 ho package vs. a 525 package, I'm very curious to know. If your getting 30 percent profit in this economy congratulations, and yes the difference was just the Oem price difference . There is actually 8k difference between each set not 4k. The original price on the ho package someone else posted was not correct.
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There is actually 8k difference between each set not 4k. The original price on the ho package someone else posted was not correct.
It is correct, and it is retail. You were the one that started making claims about "OEM" pricing, which I personally don't see any relevance in as no one but the OEM's pay that price.

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It is correct, and it is retail. You were the one that started making claims about "OEM" pricing, which I personally don't see any relevance in as no one but the OEM's pay that price.
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If your getting 30 percent profit in this economy congratulations...
I'm guessing that 30% number represents gross, not net. Still gotta account for paying the rent and light bills...

I'd guess net profit is probably less than a 1/3 of that.
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There is actually 8k difference between each set not 4k. The original price on the ho package someone else posted was not correct.
So, now it's $8k difference per set not $4k? How is it that you knew the 525 "OEM" pricing but not the 502HO "OEM" pricing?

I am not trying to be an azz, I am just looking for clarification.

I obviously don't price out new boats as a habit but I do remember seeing pricing on websites a few years ago. Going off memory going from a 496HO/X to a 525/XR was about a $25k upgrade. Now, I'm sure the 502HO with catalyst is more expensive than a 496HO.

I guess what I'm saying is I find it hard to believe that there is over 100% mark-up form "OEM" to retail pricing.
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Found some retail pricing. Going from twin 502HO/X to 525/XR is a $58,000 upgrade.

Originalronza, so you're saying there's a $42,000 difference between "OEM" and retail pricing? Minus any additional labor.

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I obviously don't price out new boats as a habit but I do remember seeing pricing on websites a few years ago. Going off memory going from a 496HO/X to a 525/XR was about a $25k upgrade. Now, I'm sure the 502HO with catalyst is more expensive than a 496HO.
That is exactly what I was quoted when I built my last boat - for twins.
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Found some retail pricing. Going from twin 502HO/X to 525/XR is a $58,000 upgrade.

Originalronza, so you're saying there's a $42,000 difference between "OEM" and retail pricing? Minus any additional labor.
I know for a fact Oem on 525/xr twin is 66k, not sure about the 8.2 ho/xr but I believe it is in 48-50k range, hence 16k. I was just going off of someone else's number on the earlier ho package. And yes I'm sure it is a 25-30k upgrade. The active thunder guy said it is more to rig 525, which I don't see how.
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I would suspect it would be more to rig Merc racing engines, just in parts to finish off the exhaust and perhaps better motor mount systems etc.

In 2006 the OEM price on a 525 XR set up was 31K, 40.5K for 600s (per engine) That OEM price is just what the manufacturer pays to get the engines to their place. Now add additional parts to rig, direct labor, fixed and variable costs of factory, indirect labor and quickly you get to where those prices aren't close to what it costs to put those engines in your boat. My guess is the bulk of the costs other than parts and maybe some direct labor are pretty much equal for whichever package you choose.

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