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Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2
(Post 3585417)
you still dont get it. a nurse and a nurse anesthetist are completely different. one cannot be the other. my cousin is right out of training with little or no experience making the previously stated amount. location and OT arent even huge drivers. everyone in the field of being an anesthetist is making huge money. double to triple that of normal hospital workers. what you are saying is general physicians make 150k while plastic surgeons make 400k. They are both doctors but in completly different fields. They arent comparable.
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From http://www.crnasalary.com/
Nurse anesthetist CRNA Salary Information Reflecting their level of responsibility, CRNAs are one of the best paid nursing specialties. According to a Merritt Hawkins & Associates study from 2009 the average salary for CRNAs was $189,000. Although in 2005 the average annual CRNA salary was reported as $160,000, although starting salaries tend to be closer to $110,000-$130,000 I find that hard to believe for a starting salary. I wonder if the nurses would have to purchase mal-practice insurance? |
Originally Posted by Brad
(Post 3585450)
From http://www.crnasalary.com/
Nurse anesthetist CRNA Salary Information Reflecting their level of responsibility, CRNAs are one of the best paid nursing specialties. According to a Merritt Hawkins & Associates study from 2009 the average salary for CRNAs was $189,000. Although in 2005 the average annual CRNA salary was reported as $160,000, although starting salaries tend to be closer to $110,000-$130,000 I find that hard to believe for a starting salary. I wonder if the nurses would have to purchase mal-practice insurance? You bring up a good point about the insurance, that could be part of it, which if it is I wonder how much a year that is. From what I have seen average that cost 28-50 a year. so if you start at 130 and minus 50 then your at 80 which is still good. Good point brad that could be the reason this starts out so high |
http://www.valuemd.com/physician-salary-first-year.html
Doctors starting salary, how much faith can you put in something you find with a search engine? SPECIALTY Years 1-2 Allergy/ Immunology $158,000 Ambulatory $80,000 Anesthesiology: Pediatrics $283,000 Anesthesiology: General $207,000 Anesthesiology: Pain Management $315,000 Cardiology: Invasive $258,000 Cardiology: Interventional $290,000 Cardiology: Noninvasive $268,000 Critical Care $187,000 Dermatology $195,000 Emergency Medicine $192,000 Endocrinology $171,000 FP (with OB) $182,000 FP (w/o OB) $161,000 FP - Sports Medicine $152,000 FP - Urgent Care $128,000 Gastroenterology $265,000 Hematology/Oncology $181,348 Infectious Disease $154,000 Internal Medicine $154,000 IM (Hospitalist) $161,000 Medicine/Pediatrics $139,000 Medical Oncology $198,000 Neonatal Medicine $286,000 Nephrology $191,000 Neurology $180,000 Obstetrics/Gynecology $211,000 Gynecology $159,000 Maternal/Fetal Medicine $286,000 Occupational Medicine $139,000 Ophthalmology $138,000 Ophthalmology Retina $280,000 Orthopedic Surgery $256,000 ORS - Foot & Ankle $228,000 ORS - Hand & Upper Extremities $288,000 ORS - Hip & Joint Replacement $330,000 ORS - Spine Surgery $398,000 ORS - Sports Medicine $266,000 Otorhinolaryngology $194,000 Pathology $169,000 Pediatrics $135,000 Pediatrics - Cardiology $145,000 Pediatrics - Critical Care $196,000 Pediatrics - Hematology/Oncology $182,000 Pediatrics - Neurology $175,000 Physiatry $169,000 Podiatry $128,000 Psychiatry $149,000 Psychiatry - Child and Adolescent $158,000 Pulmonary Medicine + Critical Care $215,000 Radiation Oncology $241,000 Radiology $201,000 Rheumatology $179,000 Surgery - General $226,000 Surgery - Cardiovascular $336,000 Surgery - Neurological $354,000 Surgery - Plastic $237,000 Surgery - Vascular $270,000 Urology $261,000 |
Originally Posted by soldier4402
(Post 3585460)
Great facts thatnks. yeah I thought 175ish was high starting out of college. Even though thats a possibility I would guess with todays market starting at that is probably hard with competition. This brings up something else is that these people that go to school to get these jobs deserve good money but this kind of money to be a high speed nurse right out of the gate, we wonder why it cost 20 grand to get a few stitches and x rays.
You bring up a good point about the insurance, that could be part of it, which if it is I wonder how much a year that is. From what I have seen average that cost 28-50 a year. so if you start at 130 and minus 50 then your at 80 which is still good. Good point brad that could be the reason this starts out so high |
2fast9tech2,
Do you know if there is a high demand for nurse anesthetists? What area was your cousin interviewing? |
Originally Posted by Brad
(Post 3585477)
2fast9tech2,
Do you know if there is a high demand for nurse anesthetists? What area was your cousin interviewing? his good friend who was actually in the same school with him relocated to TX for a 165k offer. as my cousin puts it, the nurses do all the work while the anesthesiologists just oversee everything. anesthesiologists make around 275k. its a lucrative field but then again, they have all the risk. putting someone to sleep is no easy task. kill or injure someone its all over. |
Originally Posted by Brad
(Post 3585466)
http://www.valuemd.com/physician-salary-first-year.html
Doctors starting salary, how much faith can you put in something you find with a search engine? SPECIALTY Years 1-2 Allergy/ Immunology $158,000 Ambulatory $80,000 Anesthesiology: Pediatrics $283,000 Anesthesiology: General $207,000 Anesthesiology: Pain Management $315,000 Cardiology: Invasive $258,000 Cardiology: Interventional $290,000 Cardiology: Noninvasive $268,000 Critical Care $187,000 Dermatology $195,000 Emergency Medicine $192,000 Endocrinology $171,000 FP (with OB) $182,000 FP (w/o OB) $161,000 FP - Sports Medicine $152,000 FP - Urgent Care $128,000 Gastroenterology $265,000 Hematology/Oncology $181,348 Infectious Disease $154,000 Internal Medicine $154,000 IM (Hospitalist) $161,000 Medicine/Pediatrics $139,000 Medical Oncology $198,000 Neonatal Medicine $286,000 Nephrology $191,000 Neurology $180,000 Obstetrics/Gynecology $211,000 Gynecology $159,000 Maternal/Fetal Medicine $286,000 Occupational Medicine $139,000 Ophthalmology $138,000 Ophthalmology Retina $280,000 Orthopedic Surgery $256,000 ORS - Foot & Ankle $228,000 ORS - Hand & Upper Extremities $288,000 ORS - Hip & Joint Replacement $330,000 ORS - Spine Surgery $398,000 ORS - Sports Medicine $266,000 Otorhinolaryngology $194,000 Pathology $169,000 Pediatrics $135,000 Pediatrics - Cardiology $145,000 Pediatrics - Critical Care $196,000 Pediatrics - Hematology/Oncology $182,000 Pediatrics - Neurology $175,000 Physiatry $169,000 Podiatry $128,000 Psychiatry $149,000 Psychiatry - Child and Adolescent $158,000 Pulmonary Medicine + Critical Care $215,000 Radiation Oncology $241,000 Radiology $201,000 Rheumatology $179,000 Surgery - General $226,000 Surgery - Cardiovascular $336,000 Surgery - Neurological $354,000 Surgery - Plastic $237,000 Surgery - Vascular $270,000 Urology $261,000 Now I know why the Health insurance plans I give my employees is so out of whack. Those $$ are stupidly high. |
Originally Posted by Brad
(Post 3585466)
http://www.valuemd.com/physician-salary-first-year.html
Doctors starting salary, how much faith can you put in something you find with a search engine? SPECIALTY Years 1-2 Allergy/ Immunology $158,000 Ambulatory $80,000 Anesthesiology: Pediatrics $283,000 Anesthesiology: General $207,000 Anesthesiology: Pain Management $315,000 Cardiology: Invasive $258,000 Cardiology: Interventional $290,000 Cardiology: Noninvasive $268,000 Critical Care $187,000 Dermatology $195,000 Emergency Medicine $192,000 Endocrinology $171,000 FP (with OB) $182,000 FP (w/o OB) $161,000 FP - Sports Medicine $152,000 FP - Urgent Care $128,000 Gastroenterology $265,000 Hematology/Oncology $181,348 Infectious Disease $154,000 Internal Medicine $154,000 IM (Hospitalist) $161,000 Medicine/Pediatrics $139,000 Medical Oncology $198,000 Neonatal Medicine $286,000 Nephrology $191,000 Neurology $180,000 Obstetrics/Gynecology $211,000 Gynecology $159,000 Maternal/Fetal Medicine $286,000 Occupational Medicine $139,000 Ophthalmology $138,000 Ophthalmology Retina $280,000 Orthopedic Surgery $256,000 ORS - Foot & Ankle $228,000 ORS - Hand & Upper Extremities $288,000 ORS - Hip & Joint Replacement $330,000 ORS - Spine Surgery $398,000 ORS - Sports Medicine $266,000 Otorhinolaryngology $194,000 Pathology $169,000 Pediatrics $135,000 Pediatrics - Cardiology $145,000 Pediatrics - Critical Care $196,000 Pediatrics - Hematology/Oncology $182,000 Pediatrics - Neurology $175,000 Physiatry $169,000 Podiatry $128,000 Psychiatry $149,000 Psychiatry - Child and Adolescent $158,000 Pulmonary Medicine + Critical Care $215,000 Radiation Oncology $241,000 Radiology $201,000 Rheumatology $179,000 Surgery - General $226,000 Surgery - Cardiovascular $336,000 Surgery - Neurological $354,000 Surgery - Plastic $237,000 Surgery - Vascular $270,000 Urology $261,000 Yeah then deduct the cost of the education (student loans) and the cost of insurance and suddenly Dr's aren't rich anymore! I have a neighbor that is a surgeon, she took a few years off to have kids/raise the family (her husband is a Dr. as well). Her insurance was 30K a year and she kept the policy current (paid the premiums) because she had no claims and feared not being able to get insurance again when she resumed her work schedule! I know a OBGYN that is out on disability (fell down a staircase, looks fine but ins. company declared him disabled due to the fact he can't lift one arm over his head and that would inhibit child delivery). He makes more money disabled than he netted working (gross - insurance - office overhead = net and the DI payout is currently greater than his former net income!). Lawyers are making all the money in the medical field, the days of Dr's being the rich guy in towna and playing golf on Wednesdays is over....... |
Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2
(Post 3585471)
nurse anesthetists do not pay insurance fees as they are covered under the operating anesthesiologists policy. that 110-130k number is on the low side. my cousin was offered several postitions in the 145-165k range. granted the position requires training and additional school, it still demands nearly double the starting salary of regular nurses.
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