Saltwater Drowning Named Cause of Death for Morgan and Tillman
01-18-2012, 11:35 PM
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as mentioned i have watched the video from our helicopter, and coming into the harbor the boat was running off from the chopper, but the response was instant to the diver and he was deployed immediately....and as i mentioned earlier, i believe the impact is what caused the drowning, not a slow gasping for air type drowning...be it right or wrong that is my opinion based on the professionals i have spoken to, the diver that pulled them, and the hours spent starring at that thing afterwards, and that is what i prefer to believe to give myself the closure needed to see two friends perish..
01-19-2012, 12:31 AM
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i too truly believe the rescue personnel being on the boat in under a 50 seconds is a tremendous act of reaction time to an incident of this caliber. they can have zero blame toward them in this situation... flipping a boat at 140mph will cause serious zero-G impact when hitting the water which would most likely knock anyone out...it only takes a few seconds of unconsciousness then jolting awake and gasping for air thats not there to cause your bad situation to get worse.
God Speed guys, you were great racers I very much enjoyed watching racing boats I can only dream about!!
God Speed guys, you were great racers I very much enjoyed watching racing boats I can only dream about!!
01-19-2012, 04:38 AM
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I could understand people getting in the way of the Pro's to save them, but if the non-pro's got there first, they could do whatever until the medics arrive...at least thats what we did back in the day. When someone crashed, almost everyone tried to help. then when the ambulance crew got there, everyone got out of the way. We saved many of our fellow racers lives by doing this. The first boat by didnt move over or slow down.
01-19-2012, 04:45 AM
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Not trying to turn this into a pissin contest, but they were upside down going backwards at a pretty high rate of speed. I dont know for fact, but I am sure that they were hurt or possibly knocked out from the backwards impact. I didnt time the event as to how long it took the rescue bost to get to them, but if they were unconsious and in the water...any amount of time is too long and 45 seconds is like 2 days. I dont recall seeing an escape panel on the bottom of the boat either and I am assuming that there was/is not one...meaning that the boat must have been something like at least 10 years old...yes...no?? Going backwards and upside down should have generated enough force from either water pressure or air pressure to blow the panel out. The other thing that bothers me on their crash is that other racers saw it and just went on by their merry way. To me, that is total BS and I firmly believe that one, if not all the boats that just drove on by, should have tried to help them. If just one of the other race boats would have stopped, they might have saved their lives...or they could have been killed on impact...we will never know. One thing I do feel secure about and that is if the accident had happened close to shore, the spectators would have hit the water to try to help them. Really leaves a nasty attitude with me that all the other boats didnt stop to try to help them. Whether they died on impact or from drowning...45 seconds is too damn long...especially when the first boat went by them less than 10seconds after they blew over.
As for whatever an ER nurse says...I take it with a grain of salt. If a doctor was to say the impact probably killed them...then I would be more in line to believe what a doctor says, but a nurse bumping their gums when they shouldnt...carries no weight with me at all.
I didnt know either of these guys, but I enjoyed watching them race. I hope that their families are doing the best they can, considering what has happened.
As for whatever an ER nurse says...I take it with a grain of salt. If a doctor was to say the impact probably killed them...then I would be more in line to believe what a doctor says, but a nurse bumping their gums when they shouldnt...carries no weight with me at all.
I didnt know either of these guys, but I enjoyed watching them race. I hope that their families are doing the best they can, considering what has happened.
01-19-2012, 05:47 AM
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as mentioned i have watched the video from our helicopter, and coming into the harbor the boat was running off from the chopper, but the response was instant to the diver and he was deployed immediately....and as i mentioned earlier, i believe the impact is what caused the drowning, not a slow gasping for air type drowning...be it right or wrong that is my opinion based on the professionals i have spoken to, the diver that pulled them, and the hours spent starring at that thing afterwards, and that is what i prefer to believe to give myself the closure needed to see two friends perish..
01-19-2012, 05:48 AM
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as mentioned i have watched the video from our helicopter, and coming into the harbor the boat was running off from the chopper, but the response was instant to the diver and he was deployed immediately....and as i mentioned earlier, i believe the impact is what caused the drowning, not a slow gasping for air type drowning...be it right or wrong that is my opinion based on the professionals i have spoken to, the diver that pulled them, and the hours spent starring at that thing afterwards, and that is what i prefer to believe to give myself the closure needed to see two friends perish..
