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wrinkleface 01-31-2012 06:29 PM

Aerators???
 
Ian at Ilmor asked me today if I wanted these on my new 477 NT w/ 725's & Indy's! Said they help plane but don't effect other run'n issues!! I have never dealt w/ this issue & don't know Jack Chit about it!! He said on a 43 Sunny it cut plane'n X down alot w/ no other ramifications!! I know the 1 400 Formula SS has them as I have seen them many X's on it's hoist & I think Ian said the new 38 Formula is gunna get them??? Thoughts, Thanx, Tracy:daz::daz::daz:

A.O. Razor 01-31-2012 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3606475)
Ian at Ilmor asked me today if I wanted these on my new 477 NT w/ 725's & Indy's! Said they help plane but don't effect other run'n issues!! I have never dealt w/ this issue & don't know Jack Chit about it!! He said on a 43 Sunny it cut plane'n X down alot w/ no other ramifications!! I know the 1 400 Formula SS has them as I have seen them many X's on it's hoist & I think Ian said the new 38 Formula is gunna get them??? Thoughts, Thanx, Tracy:daz::daz::daz:

As soon as you are on plane and the top half of the prop is out of the water, they have no function, so no they won't affect handling. The only thing I saw once, was trim and low speed manuvering issues because they were mounted too close to the swim platform, which restricted movement of the drives. That is not a common problem, that's just a moron mounting them.

Hope this helps

wrinkleface 01-31-2012 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3606482)
As soon as you are on plane and the top half of the prop is out of the water, they have no function, so no they won't affect handling. The only thing I saw once, was trim and low speed manuvering issues because they were mounted too close to the swim platform, which restricted movement of the drives. That is not a common problem, that's just a moron mounting them.

Hope this helps

everything helps! this will B the first FULL Ilmor package that NT has done that I know of!! As far as the engine, tranny, drive! Ian sez it is a little upshot but if plane'n will benefit alot, could B a serious consideration!!!:bunnydance:

offshorexcursion 01-31-2012 09:33 PM

Your new boats going to be awesome either way! You will learn the "sweet spot" and how it likes to be driven. I know this does not help much, and understand you asking the question. :coolcowboy:

Looking forward to reading better advice though!

RedDog382 01-31-2012 11:41 PM

Hey Doc,

Can't you just use that new dental laser you trained on out here in Vegas to cut holes in the drives and add these yourself ...? :D

wrinkleface 02-01-2012 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by RedDog382 (Post 3606710)
Hey Doc,

Can't you just use that new dental laser you trained on out here in Vegas to cut holes in the drives and add these yourself ...? :D

No, remember security nabbed it!!!!!:party-smiley-004:

Brad Zastrow 02-01-2012 09:34 AM

I have used aerators in the past with mixed results. They will help you on plane but the downside is you will be using a lot of rpm in the process. I actully took them off the boat as I was tired of spinning 5000 rpm everytime I planned off. I would rather ease up on plane with less noise and less drama. Personally I would not install them unless you have a problem planning off. They can always be added later. The other downside is you are cutting rather large hole in the drive cavitation plate for the tube.

C_Spray 02-01-2012 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow (Post 3606908)
I...Personally I would not install them unless you have a problem planning off. They can always be added later...

+1. Run it first, and see if you need to spend the money later.

Coolerman 02-01-2012 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow (Post 3606908)
I have used aerators in the past with mixed results. They will help you on plane but the downside is you will be using a lot of rpm in the process. I actully took them off the boat as I was tired of spinning 5000 rpm everytime I planned off. I would rather ease up on plane with less noise and less drama. Personally I would not install them unless you have a problem planning off. They can always be added later. The other downside is you are cutting rather large hole in the drive cavitation plate for the tube.

I'm with Brad on this to.

drpete3 02-01-2012 12:03 PM

What are they? anyone got a pic of what wrink is talking about? Is it the tube I often see coming off of #6 drives?

wrinkleface 02-01-2012 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 3607008)
What are they? anyone got a pic of what wrink is talking about? Is it the tube I often see coming off of #6 drives?

yip, same style that comes out yo A$$!!!!:evilb:

Sea-Dated 02-01-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 3607008)
What are they? anyone got a pic of what wrink is talking about? Is it the tube I often see coming off of #6 drives?

Yes, it is tube coming out of the top of the cavitation plate.

Get em Wrink, if for not other reason, I think they look cool.....:party-smiley-004:

Sydwayz 02-01-2012 12:34 PM

Try shedding a few pounds before aerators. Then you will help on planing and fuel economy. :drink:

drpete3 02-01-2012 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3607048)
Try shedding a few pounds before aerators. Then you will help on planing and fuel economy. :drink:

I swear to god he only eats a can of tuna for lunch as it is. Hes correct wrink go for the gastric by pass.:angry-smiley-038:

wrinkleface 02-01-2012 08:32 PM

more thoughts??? I have seriously been enlightend in the last 24 hours????:daz::daz::daz::daz::daz: Thanx

ILMORdude 02-01-2012 09:02 PM

How does NorTech feel about them?

C_Spray 02-01-2012 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3607407)
more thoughts??? I have seriously been enlightend in the last 24 hours????...Thanx

If you cut the holes now, there is no going back. If you try the boat without them, then you can make an informed decision.

omerta one 02-01-2012 09:22 PM

Since you never drive over 55 anyway you'll be able to prop it for the hole shot.

Downtown42 02-01-2012 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by C_Spray (Post 3607431)
If you cut the holes now, there is no going back. If you try the boat without them, then you can make an informed decision.

ditto

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A.O. Razor 02-02-2012 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 3607457)
Since you never drive over 55 anyway you'll be able to prop it for the hole shot.

LMFAO:lolhit::lolhit:

But yes, there is deffinetly no reason not to try without.

Some might think it looks cool, but not me, so if not needed, why do it.

wrinkleface 02-02-2012 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 3607457)
Since you never drive over 55 anyway you'll be able to prop it for the hole shot.

Hey, U can call me Sammy Hagar!!!!:cartman:

HaxbySpeed 02-02-2012 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3607689)
Hey, U can call me Sammy Hagar!!!!:cartman:

More like Sammy Haggard.. :evilb:

wrinkleface 02-02-2012 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by ILMORdude (Post 3607427)
How does NorTech feel about them?

Terry said they have not used them w/ the 700 packages & since they have not done this package B4 he is not sure, did comment that they can't hurt!! in my best non technical type'n I will pass on some stuff I have been told!!! w/ the big blocks/blowers of the 700's U have alot more low end torque 2 plane & w/ the Small block/ natural v10's the torque comes in higher & by aerating it lets the props spin up higher quicker 2 get in the better torque area of the Ilmors & thus help'n w/ plane'n!!!!:eekdrop:

wrinkleface 02-02-2012 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed (Post 3607716)
More like Sammy Haggard.. :evilb:

Hey, don't U have an engine 2 blow up!!!!!:lolhit:

wrinkleface 02-02-2012 04:49 PM

Talked w/ the dealer that I believe sold & services the 400 SS w/ the Aerated Indy's & he said it makes a huge dif(in a good way) w/ the tubes!!!!!:daz::daz:

ILMORdude 02-02-2012 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3608113)
Talked w/ the dealer that I believe sold & services the 400 SS w/ the Aerated Indy's & he said it makes a huge dif(in a good way) w/ the tubes!!!!!:daz::daz:

Yes it did on that boat. I was on it each way but that particular boat also weighs TWENTY THOUSAND POUNDS (give or take 1.5k). But it did make a huge difference.

wrinkleface 02-03-2012 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by ILMORdude (Post 3608241)
Yes it did on that boat. I was on it each way but that particular boat also weighs TWENTY THOUSAND POUNDS (give or take 1.5k). But it did make a huge difference.

It's cool 2 drive by that boat on the hoist & C those Indys w the big props hang'n out back!!

drpete3 02-03-2012 12:56 PM

I hink you need areators for the back of your jeans not ur drives!:wuerg019:

Perlmudder 02-03-2012 01:42 PM

Looks wise... they are kinda ghetto in the rubber IMO but some Fountains have them in polished stainless tubes that look much better!

wrinkleface 02-03-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 3608761)
I hink you need areators for the back of your jeans not ur drives!:wuerg019:

Show me how Petey!!!!!:party-smiley-004:

A.O. Razor 02-03-2012 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Perlmudder (Post 3608805)
Looks wise... they are kinda ghetto in the rubber IMO but some Fountains have them in polished stainless tubes that look much better!

Perl

They are WAY too ghetto in rubber, not something you want to put on a nice Nor-Tech, or any other nice powerboat. Much better looking in polished steel.

A.O. Razor 02-03-2012 07:30 PM

Tracy

Just a thought

As said, don't do the pipes untill you done a test run. Then if you choose to do the pipes, there is is ways of finetuning them. We did a pair on a 07' Lightning, and what we did was basically some nice machined caps you could screw on top with a smaller or larger hole in them. Looked good, and made the amount of air pulled into the prop something you could control.

hotjava66 02-03-2012 07:40 PM

Tell you what, before you make any decisions let me take it out and test run it a bit, I will let you know if it needs them or not. This may take a bit of test time, say a couple weeks or so, but I won't charge ya and I may even wash it before I bring it back:evilb:

wrinkleface 02-04-2012 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by hotjava66 (Post 3609038)
Tell you what, before you make any decisions let me take it out and test run it a bit, I will let you know if it needs them or not. This may take a bit of test time, say a couple weeks or so, but I won't charge ya and I may even wash it before I bring it back:evilb:

don't U have a battery switch 2 install!!!:lolhit:

hotjava66 02-04-2012 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3609288)
don't U have a battery switch 2 install!!!:lolhit:

Jeez, you sound like my wife :angry-smiley-038:

I would try it first without them, should be easy to add on if you feel the need is there.

wrinkleface 02-05-2012 11:51 AM

Btt

wrinkleface 02-08-2012 05:53 PM

Any other thoughts, Thanx!!:daz:


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