Gas Vapors on rise again
 

Local news station report says that Gas will Be $4.90 Gallon come spring time in California:poopoo:
better Lock your Tanks up.:riding::boat:

:eekdrop: :eekdrop: :angry-smiley-038: :angry-smiley-038: Dirty rotten dirty rottens . Here we go AGAIN . Wonder if i would make a gooood blo-boater ?? :bsflag: :picard1: :violent040:

At least you would be on the water being a blow boater but dont know if it would be so much fun going that slow

Kind of like hauling ass in my cat, But might be parking in a cove and hanging out if gas goes on the rise again

Its Nice to have advanced warning when you're about to be skrewd!
 

GEE, I wonder if those 4 refineries that are down , all at the same time for so called maintenance could have anything to do with this? NAH
Gasoline refiners and distributors wouldn't do anything like that to short gas supplies and make inventories fall and gas prices rise sharply just when people are getting ready to drive and recreate more in summer would they? NAH!
The're understanding and nicer than that right!

Can you spell monopolistic artificial control of a necessary consumer staple! If you can you can probably answer the above questions! Read 'Em and Weep Boys & Girls!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

Pretty sure lots of local news stations report this every year about this time, slow time for news I guess. I don't know what they are basing this on as I work in the industry and have no clue what prices are going to do in the next week let alone six months. I'm not saying they are wrong or right but I'm not going to go out and pick up a blow boat because of this earth shattering report.

Surely no one took me seriously . I would never part with my cat . High fuel prices , high header prices , no worries i will adjust . Please don't deny me the right to raise hell about it . :silenced: :angry-smiley-055:

Why is it EVERY year around this time that some CRISIS occurs to raise oil?
Iran
Iraq
Refineries down
Pipeline shut down
Maintanence
Etc
Etc

This NEVER happened until around 2003/04. Before that, oil/gas stayed relatively stable.

I think we are being f**ked

BTW if the price of gas goes o $4.00 again the lousy economy will get worse. You would THINK our elected ass holes in Washington would attempt - something?!??

Can you say SPECULATORS .....Bend over boys & girls , here it comes again....:bsflag:

well i cant give out all my industry secrets BUT i can tell you that even though some of our refineries are "shut down do to maintaince" thats not what is causing the gas spike... also most of our "gas" or "fuel" that is made here in the states is shipped over seas. we are able to produce it extremely quick and makes it a good export. it dont make since but think of it like this..

gas here where i am at is 3.29 a gallon while diesel is 3.67 a gallon. that in its self is about 20 cents more than super.

gas got down to 2.87 a gallon is the cheapest i had seen it here where i am at last year.

the thing is with gas prices up it makes more money for the industry and they are NOT going to lose it so they wont drop it much. we will never see 2.00 gas again.

[QUOTE= we will never see 2.00 gas again.[/QUOTE]


I DO believe that !:angry-smiley-038:

to bad the Republicans are not up for REelection, then guess were the prices would be going. lol

dont forget a dollar going south,,,or a better way to put it,,,how much would a barrel of oil cost with a strong dollar??

Who Holds All The Cards??
 

Demonmaestro:

Lets face it , its not an all oil industry problem its an oil refinery (gasoline production) issue and a bit of the proof there is the statement you make that they like to export a lot of gasoline overseas versus put it in the the supply versus demand pipeline here. Why? Pretty simple, they can make more money selling it in countries where gasoline sells for $7-$10 a gallon than sell it to us here in the good ol USA at $3 a gallon!
The shortsided read on this is that every time they push the net cost of gasoline up to all time highs to the consumer here in the USA, they take another big bite out of our already shaky economy! This is where they live, shop and raise their families too, so it just helps push us towards the day when they may have to take all their money and switch citizenships to live their great lives!
Its really simple economics 101. They control supply and demand curve and they run the show!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

Oil refineries hold a hand in the problem. The biggest issue is oil speculation. Speculators gamble on oil costing less or more in a given time. Well corporations have to appease their share holders and the way to increase price is to increase demand, supply or both. So its prety rediculous that a group of investors can dictate the price of oil. Reality is there are a lot of factors including opec. I dont buy the arguement that be happy that gas cost 3 bucks because they pay 7 in Norway. Well guess what were the biggest consumer so production and delivery of more oil should end up costing less per gallon.

Study the facts and you start to get my point.
First, gasoline use in the US has been falling for over three years now and continues to fall, thats a fact!
Second, investors have not been able to get good interest rates on bonds, muni's and treasuries so they take those monies and start playing the commodities markets, that drives up the price of crude oil artifically and that even though not even the biggest cost of making gasoline helps drive up the price of gasoline.
Third, by controlling the volume of gasoline in the pipe line and storage at any given time the oil refiners can control the availability versus demand for gasoline and totally control the market price for gasoline here in the US. What do they do with the excess inventory and overproduction when supply here becomes to big, they ship it overseas where they can sell it for even more!
This is not Free Market Economics or Supply versus Demand pricing!
Its artifical manipulation of a market to extract maximum profit PERIOD!
Let it be known I am certainly not against profit or free market economics and I don't ever want to see government ownership or control of any industry.
But, we are at a very delicate and dangerous time in both our economy here in the US and in other parts of the world and if an industry pushes the cost of a consumer staple product it very tightly controls to a point where it tips a teetering economy into furthur recession or worse then the long term effects and damage will be staggering!
With the amount of gasoline usage dropping here in the US, the cost of gasoline should drop somewhat or at least remain stable. Its not and that scares the HELL out of me!
Big oil and Gas seems to have the attitude of "HEY, WE GOT OURS, SO IF YOU WANT YOURS -PAY-UP!"
Its the attitude that bothers me the most, not just the price of GAS! Lets hope understanding and reason prevail, or its gonna be a bumpy ride!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

This is not Free Market Economics or Supply versus Demand pricing!

Its artifical manipulation of a market to extract maximum profit PERIOD!

Great statement...:eekdrop::noevil: