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scarab63 04-21-2012 03:45 PM

Pretty sure somebody that can afford 100k on a new boat may also have the resources to get a better tow vehicle than the old chrysler town & country.:lolhit:
Good thread though, I like it !!!

Md

Twin O/B Sonic 04-21-2012 06:36 PM

You're...
 

Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3669534)
Pretty sure somebody that can afford 100k on a new boat may also have the resources to get a better tow vehicle than the old chrysler town & country.:lolhit:

probably right.

VtSteve 04-21-2012 06:52 PM

One thing I like about the VW Touareg Diesel. Not that big, tows over 7,000 pounds with decent mileage. Another advantage of outboards is the lower weight. Not to mention, going from salt water to home is much easier.

Michael1 04-21-2012 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3669534)
Pretty sure somebody that can afford 100k on a new boat may also have the resources to get a better tow vehicle than the old chrysler town & country.:lolhit:
Good thread though, I like it !!!

Md

Then you are left with the decision, is this pickup going to be a dedicated tow vehicle (used mostly just for towing and a few odd weekend trips to Home Depot, or who in the family is going to drive it daily? Most people would not want a pickup for daily driver.

Michael

scarab63 04-21-2012 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Michael1 (Post 3669613)
Then you are left with the decision, is this pickup going to be a dedicated tow vehicle (used mostly just for towing and a few odd weekend trips to Home Depot, or who in the family is going to drive it daily? Most people would not want a pickup for daily driver.

Michael

Take ya pick
Range rover @ 7700
Escalade @ 7300
Nissan armada @ 9000
Steves v dub @ 7000

All likely candidates for somebody shelling out $100k on a boat ( luxury item )
More likely than a honda odyssey or a ford focus.
Id also bet my undies a good % of guys on here have p/u as daily drivers. I do.

Dont forget the smaller & ” cheaper ” the boat, all the more likely to be blue collar working stiff who already owns a p/u
BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TOPIC ;-)

There was (rip) a 27 mag sedan with twin merc ob that was a 80 + mph sleeper boat, and it looked pretty cool too. Not everyones cup of tea, but I like em.

JP-8 04-21-2012 09:18 PM

It is encouraging to see that I'm not the only one who thought this concept wasn't receiving the attention it is due.

Good points about tow vehicles. The expense they add isn't often factored in when considering a large boat. I think 26/27' is nearing the limit of easy trailering. 30 feet isn't all that bad, but not altogether convenient.

I found a few interesting scans in my collection of old marine literature:

This depiction of the Magnum 27 Sedan illustrated to good effect the versatility of its layout. There is ample cockpit room, and the raised portion of the deck makes the cabin all the more inhabitable.

All that need be altered is the choice of interior textiles to conform to current fashions, and you'd have a boat that would be a smash hit with the guy torn between amenities for the family and spirited performance.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...d-magnumAD.jpg



Another one that I am quite fond of is also a regular Cowes entrant from the 60's: The 28' Corsair by Renato "Sonni" Levi. This boat is still available for a decidedly high price:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...eranziella.jpg


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTCOMnHzpCw[/YOUTUBE]


And here is an especially unique idea that was never given a chance. Only a few ever left the mold, but I don't believe that was due to a lacking design - this thing just screams versatility:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...n/Jetcat01.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...n/Jetcat02.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...n/Jetcat03.jpg


There were some pretty talented designers in the past decades. These guys made it look easy to combine form and function, and they showed how the two need not be mutually exclusive. I'd be proud to own any one of these boats.

While the following video is about cabin cruisers and not offshore boats, you can't help but appreciate it nonetheless. This man was the last of a dying breed:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltobanQjDtg[/YOUTUBE]

VtSteve 04-21-2012 09:37 PM

I don't know how people are old enough to have ridden in the tri hulls. Man!!!! They HURT!

Twin O/B Sonic 04-22-2012 07:22 AM

That Jet Cat is interesting. Conceptually, very close to the current cats running all over down here. Their owners love them.
I think they're uglier than a box of rocks. I like the Jet Cat better than the current versions.

Raylar 04-22-2012 03:08 PM

Try this boat on for size and features and a decent sleepover cabin with a head and such. I think this should be a good candidate and for sale for under $40K. Put another $10K in the 496 with Raylar and this boat will see high 70's for speed!

www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14905

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

JP-8 04-22-2012 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 3670069)
Try this boat on for size and features and a decent sleepover cabin with a head and such. I think this should be a good candidate and for sale for under $40K. Put another $10K in the 496 with Raylar and this boat will see high 70's for speed!

www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14905

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar


All those dollars don't make sense, Ray.

The cabin dimensions of many post-1991 Formula sport boats are pretty confining, considering the length overall.

Like Sprink stated:

Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 3668515)
I guess the trick is now to put 3~4' of swim platform on the transom and call a 23' a 26' !!!

While commonplace now, it began with the adoption of the so-called "Euro" styling direction; which has a consistent tendency to sacrifice creature comforts.

I consider this to be a more viable alternative.

Sure, the swim platform is included in the overall length, but the cabin dimensions are greater than those of the Formula due to the raised deck.

All that 540 needs to really sing is a pair of closed-chamber, 781 oval-port heads, an Edelbrock RPM Air Gap intake, and a properly tuned Rochester Q-Jet carb in the 800 CFM variety.

Water injection would be necessary to prevent detonation with all that compression, but you'd be wringing every last ounce of potential energy out of those ethonal-compromised molecules. A top cylinder oiler would be a great option, and would go a long way to ensuring a reliable package.

If so configured, that boat could easily reach for 75 MPH with a stock prop.

This would all be possible for just a few hundred dollars (I can't seem to shake those "common man" ideals), and you can whip up an omelet on the stove to boot!


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