cigarette hull or formula hull
 

What has a faster hull a cigarette mistress hull or a 357 formula hull

i had a 357. never has a cig... but I would think cig is faster !

I'd say it would be a wash assuming equal power and drives. The Mistress is wider, but I would bet the weight would be about the same on both boats. Either one will take some monster horsepower to be fast by today's standards. Either boat will handle the rough stuff with ease.

No personal experience with the Mistress, but I have rode on, driven and towed my buddies 357 SR1. The Formula is indeed a heavy hull. On trailer it is just a little under 15k pounds. The trailer is a Eagle steel tripple axle trailer. The ride on it is good. He has twin 454 that were modified by a previous owner and he is probably in mid 60's for top end. I want to say the motors were estimated around 500 horsepower??? I dont know if its typical for that hull or just the one he has but once on plane, the boat tends to sit from one side to the other. You really have to use the tabs to keep it level. Hope this helps you out a little.

1985 Mistress with 675HP Naturally aspirated, 4 blade bravo 1 (24 pitch). Konrad drives spinning about 78 GPS. couple of ticks in either direction for speed. I owned one for 4 seasons.

Great riding boat, rode flat and landed perfect. Perfect Balance!

You sure Artie? The mistress is a 8' beam....

He with more power wins.... I will take our Cigs in big water though....

You're right. I was having a brain fart. Don't the old 36s have a big beam? Or am I just making all this up :lolhit:

The hulls and weights are almost identical. All things being equal they would probably be within a mile an hour.

The 36 has the wide beam...

Artie,
You got that right brotha.... The 36's are wider. I honestly dont know what the model name is but I dont believe it is a mistress......

I think the Awesome is wider - either 8'6" or 9'0"

The Awesome is a 35 Mistress hull with a raised deck..............

Sounds like I'm wrong then!!

Formula vs. Cigarette...we're splitting peas here.

In a full balls out race configuration I lean toward the Cigarette. In a real world daily use with comfort for all aboard a concern...I have to lean to the Formula.

They are so close...even the new ones. I recently spoke with a guy who had owned a 382 Fastech and a 39 Top Gun with similar power. He told me that blindfolded he could not tell which was which...smooth water...rough water...top end or cruise. Any difference would be a subjective preference.

Not sure I agree with that, my best friend has a 353 fas-tech and lets use my buddys 38 TS gun for example, both ride great but in the riough stuff the Cig is better overall, especially with the rattles and noises alone, there is a reason Cigs cost more then double in most cases...

now again when comparing I am talking Lake Erie, not Ozarks or Cumberland... in 1-3 footers they will ride the same, we start talking Eries slop washing machine 5 ft high 5 ft apart waves you get your azz handed to ya pretty easily, I now have the mistress and I have yet to be on any 35 footer that compares in ride quality, not a one.... and I been on a ton of boats...

I yield to you on this because I have no first hand experience with either hull other than a 38' Top Gun in 4'~6' head seas in the Atlantic Ocean...it performed very well. I have also been on a 41' Apache that seemed capable in 4"~6' seas at 60+ MPH.

I repeated what a man told me that owned both a 38' Top Gun and a 382 Fastech Formula. These were both relatively new boats built within the past 3 years. His experience with both was during Miami to Key West and Ft. Lauderdale to Bimini to Freeport to Ft. Lauderdale Poker Runs. He also ran both from Tarpon Springs to Panama City across 185 miles of open Gulf of Mexico...round trip. I have no reason to doubt what he said.

My personal best experience in the worst of all seas that I have encountered..8'~10' breaking swells in the Gulf-stream bucking a 30 knot NE wind...was in a 56' Viking Sport Fisherman that never had me wondering whether we were going to make it or not....but that's a whole 'nother ball game.

it;s all good, the ocean and Great lakes are two different worlds too, it's all good, no issues...

by far a 41 Apache is the beast of all beasts, they are heavy and built amazing, been on them too... great boat!!