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Matt Trulio 05-24-2012 10:03 AM

Fiore Interview on Outerlimits SV29: 'The hull is fine'
 
From the source, http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...l-is-fine.html.

thirdchildhood 05-24-2012 10:10 AM

Wow. I thought we were finally going to get the whole story. Instead we got "the hull is fine" and "I'm not willing to discuss that". Not really the way to stop the rumor mill.....

Too Stroked 05-24-2012 10:11 AM

A "mechanical failure" caused the boat to go over. Mike refuses to disclose what failed other than to say "it will never happen again."

I've been a Mechanical Engineer for over 30 years. It's very difficult to make sure anything will never happen again. Personally, I'd feel much better if I knew what failed and what was done to correct it. But that's just the engineer in me.

Boomer35 05-24-2012 10:21 AM

looked like a pretty good answer to me. I would venture to say that he doesnt want to point fingers at a distributor or anyone else he buys parts from. It was an accident, caused by mechanical failure, it happens.. My 30' twin engine very heavy Cig had a the button on one of the tabs stick once and i swear my hair got wet we rolled starboard so hard. I caught it in time, but it could have been a different story at higher speeds or in a turn.

if you dont like, or trust the hull, dont buy it, but dont ruin a reputation or mans way to make a living on your opinion.

scarab63 05-24-2012 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Too Stroked (Post 3694868)
A "mechanical failure" caused the boat to go over. Mike refuses to disclose what failed other than to say "it will never happen again."

I've been a Mechanical Engineer for over 30 years. It's very difficult to make sure anything will never happen again. Personally, I'd feel much better if I knew what failed and what was done to correct it. But that's just the engineer in me.

Thinking if it was a indicator problem...outerlimits / Mike prob have a established relationship with the mfg....he may not want to throw anybody under the bus.
EDIT...if indicators were the malfunction



Wonder if this will effect led indicator sales, or if most will stick with good ol cables .

Good interview Matt

Matt Trulio 05-24-2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Too Stroked (Post 3694868)
A "mechanical failure" caused the boat to go over. Mike refuses to disclose what failed other than to say "it will never happen again."

I've been a Mechanical Engineer for over 30 years. It's very difficult to make sure anything will never happen again. Personally, I'd feel much better if I knew what failed and what was done to correct it. But that's just the engineer in me.

Before you jump to conclusions, you might want to consider that there could be other vendors, insurance companies and maybe even lawyers involved.

You could even look at it as not wanting to point fingers before until all investigations (and being an engineer, if your product was blamed for a failure I am sure you and your company would want to do your own investigation) are complete.

That was the impression I got during my interview with Mr. Fiore, at least.

Too Stroked 05-24-2012 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3694886)
Before you jump to conclusions, you might want to consider that there could be other vendors, insurance companies and maybe even lawyers involved.

You could even look at it as not wanting to point fingers before until all investigations (and being an engineer, if your product was blamed for a failure I am sure you and your company would want to do your own investigation) are complete.

That was the impression I got during my interview with Mr. Fiore, at least.

Oh I'm absolutley sure you are correct there Matt. As you might guess though, Engineers are at the opposite end of the specturm from Lawyers (and Politicians).

NASCAT 05-24-2012 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3694886)
Before you jump to conclusions, you might want to consider that there could be other vendors, insurance companies and maybe even lawyers involved.

You could even look at it as not wanting to point fingers before until all investigations (and being an engineer, if your product was blamed for a failure I am sure you and your company would want to do your own investigation) are complete.

That was the impression I got during my interview with Mr. Fiore, at least.

Matt,

Thanks for taking the time to reach out to OL & Mike as well as give them the opportunity to share their accounting. At the end of the day I don't think you would give any company or individual the platform or forum unless you thought they would shoot you straight!

Keep up the good work! I miss my PB Mag but heck I get to read up on so much more in almost real time!

Indy 05-24-2012 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Too Stroked (Post 3694893)
Oh I'm absolutley sure you are correct there Matt. As you might guess though, Engineers are at the opposite end of the specturm from Lawyers (and Politicians).

Thank goodness...I'd never want to drive over a bridge designed by those two. Probably have to sign a waiver before I drove over it...besides, piles of bullsh!t don't support much.

smiklos@sunprint 05-24-2012 11:46 AM

I would not rule out a gimbal failure. Clearly they seem very comfortable with this boat at speed.
Steve

Sbarberdds 05-24-2012 11:55 AM

Im more than satisfied with mikes answer , no question ill be looking at outerlimits for my next purchase

PARADISE ISLAND 05-24-2012 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3694867)
Wow. I thought we were finally going to get the whole story. Instead we got "the hull is fine" and "I'm not willing to discuss that". Not really the way to stop the rumor mill.....

:argue:Why whould he put his whole company at risk and answer a question wrong!!He's smart with all the expert legal eagles looking to sue in the future let them jerk off:angry-smiley-038::asskiss:

Whipple Charged 05-24-2012 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by smiklos@sunprint (Post 3694942)
I would not rule out a gimbal failure. Clearly they seem very comfortable with this boat at speed.
Steve

Gimble did not fail.

stainless 05-24-2012 12:39 PM

Nice job, Matt.

BraceYourself 05-24-2012 01:06 PM

I'd of rather heard...

There were unusual waves and wind that day, and I was beyond the boats capabilities when we rolled. However design changes have been made to increase the safety envelope. Again this is what we are testing for. R&D to produce the best boat possible.

Their answer may be the truth but how often do you ever really get the truth in the boating biz.

A mechanical error that results in this outcome with normal conditions and routine driving tells me the safety envelope is to tight for the average boater that is capable of this purchase.

Just my 2 cents.

smiklos@sunprint 05-24-2012 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by BraceYourself (Post 3695018)
I'd of rather heard...

There were unusual waves and wind that day, and I was beyond the boats capabilities when we rolled. However design changes have been made to increase the safety envelope. Again this is what we are testing for. R&D to produce the best boat possible.

Their answer may be the truth but how often do you ever really get the truth in the boating biz.

A mechanical error that results in this outcome with normal conditions and routine driving tells me the safety envelope is to tight for the average boater that is capable of this purchase.

Just my 2 cents.

Fast single engine boats can catch you out sometimes. This weekend 3 of the 5 SVL's spun in the Cocoa Beach race.
Steve

customryder 05-24-2012 02:57 PM

100 + is just to fast in a 29' boat..(in any brand) opening the door to many problems... exp from a not so experienced driver, just my personal view.

BONDO10 05-24-2012 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Sbarberdds (Post 3694948)
Im more than satisfied with mikes answer , no question ill be looking at outerlimits for my next purchase

what was your last purchase?

Sbarberdds 05-24-2012 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by BONDO10 (Post 3695096)
what was your last purchase?

Picking up my new f150 ecoboost tomorrow, 28 skater with 300's before that, why?

SS930 05-24-2012 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by BONDO10 (Post 3695096)
what was your last purchase?

You don't recall Mr. Darr's "44" Skater??? It's the one that had the 1/4" plywood bussel...

OldSchool 05-24-2012 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3695126)
You don't recall Mr. Darr's "44" Skater??? It's the one that had the 1/4" plywood bussel...

Good eye!!

Darr is like dogchit. You clean it up...... and it just shows up again!!!!! :D:D:evilb:

mcprodesign 05-24-2012 04:34 PM

That's what is wrong w the world these day's. Too much cover up.. What the he!! was the mechanical problem anyway ... Everyone could learn from it.

pasquesi 05-24-2012 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Sbarberdds (Post 3694948)
Im more than satisfied with mikes answer , no question ill be looking at outerlimits for my next purchase

Ok Jim. Are you parking it next to your Skater?


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