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wlwaldock 06-27-2012 05:29 PM

Its pretty cool that some of the big dogs post on here, I've really enjoyed reading this thread.

PhantomChaos 06-28-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AB From Windsor (Post 3715319)
I also would like to see that video along with everybody else on here.

Here ya go. This is preliminary......gonna try to get better stuff soon. Two time spin.....three? Not sure. Lucky fackers in MyWay for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Catmando 06-28-2012 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by paintman (Post 3718133)
Oh yea it happened as reported, spoke to a guy who is best buds with Bill T,son (Ron T) they were touching close to 200 and a pleasure boat pulled in front, they were cutting wide to go around & hooked- the 3 times around is also correct- if u can picture the old movie top gun when they got into a flat spin-apparently same sort of deal and then she semi stuffed.

And yep no injuries and my way is getting the once over but appears ok


As far as pullin those kinda speeds on that water - I dunno- all I no is I'm saving my sheckles for a mystic. Granted I will be 253yrs old......

I'm really surprised they didn't break everything on the transom. Glad to hear everyone's ok.

Catmando 06-28-2012 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3719373)
Here ya go. This is preliminary......gonna try to get better stuff soon. Two time spin.....three? Not sure. Lucky fackers in MyWay for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like two spins. Did Aquamania turn around and assist?

Philm 06-28-2012 02:12 AM

Well they certainly spun, hard to tell how many times, at least twice from what i can see.

They were certainly going fast. 190mph fast?? who knows.

Lucky guys right there.

demonmaestro 06-28-2012 02:21 AM

well the speed is a factor but at least now there is actual video of what happened..

Audiofn 06-28-2012 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing (Post 3718855)
then again that bright yellow boat in front of you could throw off anyones counting ;) lol

Ya but what you left out is that you were a lap down...:party-smiley-004::poopoo::lolhit:

CigDaze 06-28-2012 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3719373)
Here ya go. This is preliminary......gonna try to get better stuff soon. Two time spin.....three? Not sure. Lucky fackers in MyWay for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow! Can't believe it didn't bite and go over. They're lucky for sure.

SS930 06-28-2012 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3719373)
Here ya go. This is preliminary......gonna try to get better stuff soon. Two time spin.....three? Not sure. Lucky fackers in MyWay for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was envisioning a near miss and cranking the wheel too hard to avoid a collision, which caused the spin. In the video it looks like they spun way after going around that boat. :confused:

It is hard to judge the speed in the video (or even the side to side distance of the boats). I'd be surprised if that was 190 mph, but one thing is for sure... That glass-like water is what kept this as nothing more than a sunny side up spin. Had the water been much rougher the boat would have caught and flipped/rolled violently.

Glad to see everyone is okay, that could have been a really bad scene! Hopefully it was a learning experience too. :)

AB From Windsor 06-28-2012 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3719373)
Here ya go. This is preliminary......gonna try to get better stuff soon. Two time spin.....three? Not sure. Lucky fackers in MyWay for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank's for posting the video and thanks to the person who took the video. To me it looked like they only spun once but if it is two or three times it really doesn't matter. It is hard to judge the speed but he was going at a good clip. What really surprised me about the spin is that the water was calm. Was there a mechanical problem with the trim of the boat or the rudder? Anyways I'm glad that everyone was OK.

SS930 06-28-2012 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3719457)
I was envisioning a near miss and cranking the wheel too hard to avoid a collision, which caused the spin. In the video it looks like they spun way after going around that boat. :confused:

It is hard to judge the speed in the video (or even the side to side distance of the boats). I'd be surprised if that was 190 mph, but one thing is for sure... That glass-like water is what kept this as nothing more than a sunny side up spin. Had the water been much rougher the boat would have caught and flipped/rolled violently.

Glad to see everyone is okay, that could have been a really bad scene! Hopefully it was a learning experience too. :)

BTW, I did not notice a PWC anywhere in that video as was reported to be the cause of the accident in the other thread.

pondrunner 06-28-2012 08:08 AM

Looks like My Way swung out wide to avoid the pleasure cruiser, then turned in too sharp to catch Aqua and hooked it. Looks like Aqua went on this side (video angle) of the cruiser.

paintman 06-28-2012 08:29 AM

Bing bing bing we have a winner, that's exactly how it was explained to me



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UOTE=pondrunner;3719502]Looks like My Way swung out wide to avoid the pleasure cruiser, then turned in too sharp to catch Aqua and hooked it. Looks like Aqua went on this side (video angle) of the cruiser.[/QUOTE]

Pro1 06-28-2012 08:33 AM

The sport cruiser is not moving not on plane and no wake.

The Mystic went from speed to 0 mph in 2-3 seconds.

4bus 06-28-2012 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3719494)
BTW, I did not notice a PWC anywhere in that video as was reported to be the cause of the accident in the other thread.

In his defense I don't think that frame is wide enough to show why he was turning. The video only shows maybe 250 ft in front of him, 190 mph is 278 ft per second ;)

That video shows exactly what I was told at the bay that weekend, MyWay on the outside, AM on the inside, turn at speed.

Also a chance he got into the wake from AM while turning, which is not going to be seen from that distance. The water looks flat, but that region must be the worst "boat chop" area in the country.

The port sponson lifts right before the spin

Pro1 06-28-2012 08:39 AM

He is lucky he did not go into an uncontrolled spin heading for the trees and land which he was fairly close.

BROWNIE 06-28-2012 08:42 AM

What was the condition of the rudder after te spin? I don't think that even the rudder king, B.L. could make one to stand that spin.....

KNOT-RIGHT 06-28-2012 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by BROWNIE (Post 3719538)
What was the condition of the rudder after te spin? I don't think that even the rudder king, B.L. could make one to stand that spin.....

Man you really are as smart as people say you are.:ernaehrung004:
Aquamania cut back there outward distance on there rudder after the flip in key west ( rudder closer to the transom).
KR

PhantomChaos 06-28-2012 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 3719918)
Man you really are as smart as people say you are.:ernaehrung004:
Aquamania cut back there outward distance on there rudder after the flip in key west ( rudder closer to the transom).
KR



Is the rudder forward of the props?

pullmytrigger 06-28-2012 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 3718484)
if i was him, i'd be buying lottery tickets...isnt that the first time or close to it that someones wiped out a cat at over 150 and lived to tell about it??

You mean other than Chris Sunkin of course......

J Arruda 06-28-2012 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT (Post 3719918)
Man you really are as smart as people say you are.:ernaehrung004:
Aquamania cut back there outward distance on there rudder after the flip in key west ( rudder closer to the transom).
KR

This statement is NOT correct.
We just made a custom 3 degree wedge that pitched the rudder back 3 degrees away from the transome on Aqua-Mania.
Also what saved Aqua-Mania when coming too fast into the turn with My Way, were the newly installed prop shaft brakes designed by Turbine Marine, that we just completed on that boat a week before. They were built for exactly this reason.
I was told by the throttle man that they were pumping the brakes HARD in that turn to slow down. My Way on the other hand just came in too hot trying to pass Aqua.
Glad everyone is fine.

PhantomChaos 06-28-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by J Arruda (Post 3720088)
This statement is NOT correct.
We just made a custom 3 degree wedge that pitched the rudder back 3 degrees away from the transome on Aqua-Mania.
Also what saved Aqua-Mania when coming to fast into the turn with My Way, where the newly installed prop shaft brakes designed by Turbine Marine, that we just completed on that boat a week before. They where built for exactly this reason.
I was told by the throttle man that they where pumping the brakes HARD in that turn to slow down. My Way on the other hand just came in to hot trying to pass Aqua.
Glad everyone is fine.

Ok.....thanks! :eekdrop: Where abouts did this happen? On this map?

KNOT-RIGHT 06-29-2012 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by J Arruda (Post 3720088)
This statement is NOT correct.
We just made a custom 3 degree wedge that pitched the rudder back 3 degrees away from the transome on Aqua-Mania.
Also what saved Aqua-Mania when coming to fast into the turn with My Way, where the newly installed prop shaft brakes designed by Turbine Marine, that we just completed on that boat a week before. They where built for exactly this reason.
I was told by the throttle man that they where pumping the brakes HARD in that turn to slow down. My Way on the other hand just came in to hot trying to pass Aqua.
Glad everyone is fine.

I,m sure Rick told us they moved it back
Even pointing out the shortened bussel.
Perhaps We had to many Captain cokes that night in
KW. Thanks for setting me straight.
KR

WARPARTY36 06-29-2012 09:51 AM

I've been in a 90 degree turn at 130ish and the G forces were tugging on your shorts. I can't imagine the G force in that spin:eek::eek::eek:

offshorexcursion 06-29-2012 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by MissGeicoRacing (Post 3718646)
Glad everyone made it through unscathed..to much loss recently....that said



Bill,Gregg, Bob, Rich....HEADS UP>>> There's an offshore race in Sarasota this weekend !! And we would enjoy the company (Big piston or Turbine) on the racecourse..plenty of limelight to go around!

small print....... you will have to turn...fast...like 50 times...actually ..you going to have to turn ridiculously fast...like 50 times...and... there is no lunch stop (wtf)....and unfortunately, no one cares who made it to the first turn, first.....oh..and you can't slow down for 80 miles..(sorry, it's just kinda how it is).. probably will be other boat traffic on the course (no jet skis though) so you will have to avoid them..if possible ....yeah and well one last thing...the water probably won't be flat as a pancake. (I know.. really? )

Seriously, were making some calls to see if we can get to lay down a little bit .... no one has called us back yet so your props will most likely get some airtime.

http://www.sarasotasurf.com/Webcam.aspx


So pack your beast up and come show us how it's done in front of 75k fans. (or pack your family and friends up and come say hello and hang with all (your friends) the racers and crews in the pits)...either way ,we'd ALL love to see you guys at one of the best races of the year!!


XOXO

Miss Geico

Awesome! :lolhit:

bluellama 06-30-2012 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3720106)
Ok.....thanks! :eekdrop: Where abouts did this happen? On this map?

xx

BoatShow239 06-30-2012 07:40 PM

In the western 3rd 0f the map...
 
Go to http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...pin-190-a.html and get into the other conversation...


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 3720106)
Ok.....thanks! :eekdrop: Where abouts did this happen? On this map?


PhantomChaos 07-01-2012 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by BoatShow239 (Post 3721071)
Go to http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...pin-190-a.html and get into the other conversation...

There isn't a map on that thread. :evilb::evilb:

KiloKat 07-01-2012 01:10 AM

Damn Nort - ur on a roll tonight :)

PhantomChaos 07-01-2012 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by KiloKat (Post 3721179)
Damn Nort - ur on a roll tonight :)

LOL......hittin the water tomorrow! Have an awesome holiday week!

KiloKat 07-01-2012 01:23 AM

U 2 Dude! Had my boat out playin on LOTO today - was great!

Too many waverunners tho - almost took on straight down the tunnel :(

Be safe & Happy 4th!


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