What is a "new" 2011 400ss worth?
 

I looked at a "new" demo 400ss with 8.2's and Axis controls yesterday. Not sure of the hours, probably around 20. Titled and warrantied as new but yet two model years old. Hardtop, most options.
What would it be worth?
If I had any sort of u clue I wouldn't ask here.
I'm not looking for opinions on this or other similar boats, just an idea of this boats value.
Thanks!!!

What an awesome boat for sure.
I don't know the value but, if I were looking at a 2 year old new boat like that my first offer would be 60 percent of MSRP to get a feel of where they came back at. Then I wouldn't come up much when I countered.

See ya,
Kelly

Just for a reference point!
 

I have no idea what it is actually worth. Likely no one knows. As a wise man once said "... the fair market price of anything is what a willing buyer and a willing seller agree upon."

For this link, I added nothing. If there are options above the standard boat, they would need to be added.

http://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/2011...dard-Equipment

Keeping in mind; this is for a used boat.

My experience with dealers has been they are, as a general rule of thumb, not going to take anything less than what they have in it. This is especially true if the model has not significantly changed from model year to model year.

Not sure how Thunderbird does it, but some manufacturers do have some special pricing for dealers who have a designated demo. I do not believe it is significant.

I hope this has been of some assistance.

I agree it's hard to say what any boat is actually worth.
Thanks Florida for the link, that does help!

at 60% of MSRP you should be below dealer cost but may still be in the right neighborhood. Like stated, I'd start there and move up a little as your desire/wallet allows.

I'd guess the dealers actual cost to be right around 65 to 70% of MSRP, There's usually a lot of profitability if you can actually sell at the sticker price.
I'd feel reasonably certain that there are additional incentives from the mfg to the dealer to help them move new boats from a previous year or two.


See ya,
Kelly

And as soon as you guy it it is a 2 year old used boat.

check this website out , here's the link
with the 40ss
http://www.seedealercost.com/product...gorySlug/boats

invoice price new was $ 376k

yachtauctions.com

They usually have many to choose from around $120 with gas motors.

This one has diesels which is much more expensive version offer $160,000.

http://www.yachtauctions.com/inventory/7976/

I bought a 2008 370 leftover in 2010 with zero hours on it. The deal was awesome, so I basically got a new boat at a used boat price. Can't complain.

The factory will get involved, if the dealer has a good working relationship with them. And by involved, I mean, they will help sweeten the deal. We had several options added to our boat at favorable pricing, for example, as part of our package.

Beware of a dealer that might have scooped up a GE repo, as these boats will not be warrantied by Formula, without a significant extra cost for that warranty. And chances are the boat has had a hard life in the process. And the dealer probably doesn't have any affiliation or knowledge of the Formula line.

Can't go wrong. Other than a few teething pains from sitting for awhile, our boat has been flawless and we love it.

Know where there is a real nice diesel powered hardtop for sale. Right on LOTO too.

Tell me more, grasshoppa!

If you buy my 2006 with 525's ill deliver it to LOTO as long as i can use it the weekend of the poker run :)

Its sitting on the lift at Lands End condos. I believe you talked to Brett at PBC about it. Fully options hardtop 400ss with 150 hours. Still has Formula guard warranty till 2013. Let me know if you need any other info.

Ben

Not trying to hijack but WOW !!! That would damn sure be a sweet boat at 160 if they took it.
160 hours on diesels, those engines ain't even broke in yet.

Summer, good luck with the dealer if you move forward.
I really do think 60% of MSRP will put you in the ballpark of an acceptable offer. You can rest well assured they want to move it much more than you want to purchase it, I wouldn't want aging inventory at my shop with that kind of value. I'd be happy to make a point or two and receive the mfg incentives just to wave bye bye to the unit.

See ya,
Kelly

Slowride: yes we are planning on looking at that boat as well.
One of the things I liked so much about the newer boat was the joy stick control. I think with a day or so practice Jen could dock the boat! That would be cool. The rear facing lounge/subpar on the 2009 and newer boats is nice also.
To be honest I have a tough time getting real excited about any cruisers. That should be good for me waiting for the right deal though.

Bow thrusters make it pretty easy to dock even in the wind. The new joystick controls are pretty cool though. We looked at the 2009s when we bought ours, just couldnt find any diesel hardtops with this much equipment.
Good luck on the search.

You'll be hard pressed to find a cleaner, more well kept boat than Slowride's 400SS. Diesels are the only way to go in that boat IMO.

I agree it looks awesome in the pictures! We would not even look if it didn't look immaculate! It's a beautiful boat for sure.

Ben keeps all of his stuff top notch.

My biggest concern on the 8.2L boat with Axius would be the lack of a tie bar on the Bravo III drives. That is a lot of boat to be pushing around with the drives not tied together. Has to play hell on the gimble rings.

So, you have the blue 40 Skater that was at H Toad's the morning of the SOTPR? Beautiful boat!!! Love the steps built into the deck/hull between the drives.

Yes I do, and thank you! That also explains why I have a hard time getting excited about cruisers.

Its like having a sports car and a big BMW. You can't compare the two to each other, and its best when you have both.

400ss
 

Diesels are the way to go on the 400SS sweet spot for cruising is same as gas boat around 40 MPH Much faster and the blender falls over. Gas in a 370. Bens boat is screw new. If I had room on the dock down here I would be all over it

yeah but who buys a 400SS to go 40

525's are the way to go, who wants to be the boat that everyone is waiting for?
Granted 60mph isn't that fast but sure better than 50.

Where the hell have u been

Where did the playboy go?

Thanks man for the compliment. See ya at the lake next time around. Be down late July to early August.
You still need a ride in the OL.

Most people buy them to go faster than a SeaRay but slower than a 382 Fastech but with 10 people sitting and the A/C and Espn on...or some lucky ones have both. Surely cant fault 525's in anything!

The Ilmors look nice. Just saying. :party-smiley-004:

That is what the 350, 370, and 400SS excel at. Crusing between 30 - 40 MPH. At LOTO, you are not going to run a 400SS at 60 MPH on the main channel and not beat the pi$$ out of your kidneys.

Just back from 2 weeks down there. Be down again for the Shootout. I'm sure I'll see you at Dick's on Friday. Yeah, if it works out sometime a ride on the 42 would be great.

The 350HP Volvos are a great package in that boat. At cruise speed the diesels are twice as quiet as gas motors and burn less fuel. She'll top out in the high 40s vs low 50s with gas. Parking is a breeze too, rarely ever need the bow thruster.

Yep - Screw 60 mph; how about 70 mph? :evilb:

So far, there are two 725/Indy boats out there. One in Michigan and one on Lake Cumberland.

How have you been?

Thanks everyone for the input. I didn't know there were any Ilmor boats out there! Interesting.

I agree about running down the channel at 60....It was pretty rough at 50 on a not super busy weekend.
Looking at a 48 Fountain EC with trip Cummins and surface drives also, supposed to run really well, might be the best of both worlds.

I saw the Ilmor boat on youtube. Nice boat

Another one in Arizona. I've seen the one at Lake Cumberland and it is an impressive piece.