much much worse

odyssey tow capacity is 3500#

PLUS

[3] Requires surge-type or electric trailer brakes and available Honda accessory towing package and hitch ball. Premium unleaded fuel recommended when towing. Please see your Honda dealer for details.

^^ none of which I am sure they had including the fuel

weight of a Baja 232 is 3900 pounds.....so they were 400# over without the trailer and fuel

it is idiots like this that will make it where boat owners start to have to have higher class licenses and or they will need to prove they have a tow vehicle to register the boat.....or probably worse

Well, at least they had the boat secured to the trailer :D ... they were tying two pieces of ski rope (stretched across the beam of the boat, separated by about 5') to the trailer rails ... would have been a great picture but since they decided to stop to secure their boat right in the middle of the driving lane going to the parking lot (they had evey hatch/door/orfice of that Odessey flung open) and had eveything at the ramp all stopped up, ... I didn't take the time to get a picture .:eek: .

I tow my 22ft Stingray with a chevy 1500 4x4 and the boat weighs close to 4000lbs trucks tows it just fine, but that honda wont be able to go fast at all, and be to tongue heavy. I see those pilots having issues pulling a 19ft open bow out of the ramp

Honda Odyssey trans can't handle any stress so it is dead now or soon will be. The Pilot trans is better but not enough to act like domestic iron. I hope the best for the safety of anyone involved but I seriously want to see the pics of the carnage or hear the fail story because that is where this is headed.

First off, I would ask your friend if when he bought the Pilot was he required to trade in his balls for it because there is no other way you could think of any self respecting man would drive something like that. Second, I would then stop being friends with him and no longer talk to him until he got rid of his Pilot.

Ok I'm just kidding around, :lolhit: Like others have said, towing that Nova with his Pilot is a NO go.

Sorry, I made an error, friend corrected me ... it was a 212 Islander (3550 lb, per specs) not a 232 (3900 lb, per spec). Still a lot of boat for a mini van. :picard1:

For reference, the advertised weight of my 221 Liberator is 3990 (this is DRY weight remember). I weighed it on an aluminum tandem axle I-beam trailer last year and is was 5400lbs. It had about 1/2 tank of fuel and all the normal gear. This should be pretty typical as the title on the trailer stated 1050lbs when I bought it (from another state, Michigan does not issue trailer titles but the weight of the trailer is required to get a plate and this determines the plate price). A steel trailer should be 3-500lbs heavier or more depending on the brand/style/etc. I tow it with an 09' F-150 so it's no issue (9200# rating).

Any way you slice it, it's a bad idea...for safety of you, others, and the car. I can see towing if for a few miles if you had to, but I'd borrow a truck for that type of trip.

we will go "light" here

add in 7 pounds per gallon of gas X 50 gallons......350#s

500# of trailer

100# of ice, coolers, chest, jackets, skis, ski weenies, innertubes, wakeboards

I am sure they are of the type that loads up a boat like that with 9 people......so there is 1350# more in the mini-van

yea this is a news at 9 report waiting to happen :whistle:

:evilb:What's going one here, 500lbs for a trailer??, this isn't a jet-ski trailer is it :)

Honda Pilot GVWR 6096
Weight of Honda Pilot 4544
Difference for capacity: 1552

Add:
2 people 350
gas 350
crap (like texas vines has above) 300
10% tongue weight of boat and trailer + crap in boat 600 minimum

1600 total - over your 1552 allowed from a gvwr perspective. You'll have problems with insurance coverage at that weight, and I'm being conservative with my numbers + any sort of hard breaking, quick steering for an avoidance event, etc and that Pilot will live up to it's name but it'll be an Auto-Pilot and you'll be going for a ride.

Tell you buddy to get married and have two kids, the Pilot can handle the car seats perfectly with room to spare for diapers and maybe even a vomit bag for motion sickness.