Fountain @ LOTO passengers injured in near rollover
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From what i have read, loto is pretty nasty sometimes. Since I was told its more of a river not a lake, boat wakes just cause the water to turn into a washing machine. I have been told it is like Mosley channel on Lake Erie (the area between Kelleys Island and Marblehead and Put in Bay. ) Between the boat wakes, ferry wake and generally 1-3 foot waves it just turns into a very confused water condition.
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Small ferry in the background and big ones are just around the corner
catching up to crusie ship going 28 kts already here with huge rollers behind
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Question for those of you that do your boating on small inland lakes like LOTO. How big does the water really get?
I have spent my life on the Atlantic ocean as a pleasure boater and offshore racer. The only lake boating I have ever done is on the Great Lakes and that was racing. As an ocean boater I find it very difficult to believe that a driver with any seat time at all would have a hard time navigating boat wakes. I'm not trying to place blame just trying to figure out why people seem to be having such a difficult time with these wakes.
I have spent my life on the Atlantic ocean as a pleasure boater and offshore racer. The only lake boating I have ever done is on the Great Lakes and that was racing. As an ocean boater I find it very difficult to believe that a driver with any seat time at all would have a hard time navigating boat wakes. I'm not trying to place blame just trying to figure out why people seem to be having such a difficult time with these wakes.
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where i will agree is that the Ozarks is like our the river in width and normal traffic.
when it gets busy in the Ozarks boats can be all along the channel and coming out of coves running diagonal or whatever the hell they want to do. I take it easy out there because i cant predict the next wave. out here we have that much room. also it is common courtesy to treat it like a road. try and stay on the rh side of the channel. but the boat traffic is only 2 way. no sideways stuff no coves to come out and enter the channel. there is always the risk of being by boat launches or beaches where people are planing into the channel but on open water between places people stop it is usually predictable. unless we have a strong wind blowing against the current the only waves you worry about you see because there is a boat making them. To me when its busy in the Ozarks id rather stay on the dock or at the condo it just becomes such bathwater. just wave after wave crashing into each other. but now i go in early august or September. went in may thins year too and it was just right.
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I am surprised that driver could even stand up after that. Those people definately looked banged up. Wonder if it will come out how fast they were going. 60 or 70 seems low witht he throttles buried like that, unless it had stock 420's in it.
Just wow! Life jackets and tethers!
Just wow! Life jackets and tethers!
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I'm going to agree and disagree a little here. I have been to LOTO 4 times with my outlaw 24. Its rough during busy season. Where i boat in the Mississippi is much like the Ozarks. At no point is our distance from shore to shore any smaller than the channel of the Ozarks. We have to stay between the buoys to avoid wing dams and other things put in the water so that barges can use the river to move product.
where i will agree is that the Ozarks is like our the river in width and normal traffic.
when it gets busy in the Ozarks boats can be all along the channel and coming out of coves running diagonal or whatever the hell they want to do. I take it easy out there because i cant predict the next wave. out here we have that much room. also it is common courtesy to treat it like a road. try and stay on the rh side of the channel. but the boat traffic is only 2 way. no sideways stuff no coves to come out and enter the channel. there is always the risk of being by boat launches or beaches where people are planing into the channel but on open water between places people stop it is usually predictable. unless we have a strong wind blowing against the current the only waves you worry about you see because there is a boat making them. To me when its busy in the Ozarks id rather stay on the dock or at the condo it just becomes such bathwater. just wave after wave crashing into each other. but now i go in early august or September. went in may thins year too and it was just right.
where i will agree is that the Ozarks is like our the river in width and normal traffic.
when it gets busy in the Ozarks boats can be all along the channel and coming out of coves running diagonal or whatever the hell they want to do. I take it easy out there because i cant predict the next wave. out here we have that much room. also it is common courtesy to treat it like a road. try and stay on the rh side of the channel. but the boat traffic is only 2 way. no sideways stuff no coves to come out and enter the channel. there is always the risk of being by boat launches or beaches where people are planing into the channel but on open water between places people stop it is usually predictable. unless we have a strong wind blowing against the current the only waves you worry about you see because there is a boat making them. To me when its busy in the Ozarks id rather stay on the dock or at the condo it just becomes such bathwater. just wave after wave crashing into each other. but now i go in early august or September. went in may thins year too and it was just right.
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I am by no means blaming a cruiser for its wake. What I was trying to explain is most cruisers can get up on plane, most boats are designed to plane not to plow. I have seen 33 Sundancers up on plane throw a 8" wake and have seen the same boat with an idiot captain throw a 8' wake. I actually chatted with ferry captain one day about this and he said that a lot of new boaters think by going slow and not getting up on plane will save gas. What they don't realize is they are burning more by plowing the water and churning up good water.
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Okay, crazy question time, but aren't those the most shallow bolsers you have ever seen? It's all I can do to wedge into the bolsters in my OL (bench is tripple bolstered as well) and even the bolsters in my old school Cafe Racer were seriously deep. Maybe it is just camera angle, but is looks like those didn't do anything to slow anyone down - maybe something to think about next time you want to dial it up...?
And yes, both of the visible girls were doing serious justice to those suits and I wish all a very speedy recovery.
And yes, both of the visible girls were doing serious justice to those suits and I wish all a very speedy recovery.
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I am by no means blaming a cruiser for its wake. What I was trying to explain is most cruisers can get up on plane, most boats are designed to plane not to plow. I have seen 33 Sundancers up on plane throw a 8" wake and have seen the same boat with an idiot captain throw a 8' wake..
Some of this cruiser / wake talk reminds me of the car driver who thinks anyone on the highway that is going slower than he is must be stupid, but anyone going faster than he is must be an idiot.