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CafeRacerPTY 09-05-2012 08:53 PM

Race Engine rebuild
 
Hey everyone..

A friend and I recently purchased a boat from a guy who used to race in Panama. As part of the sale he offered to throw in an old racing engine and of course we said yes. The engine is a high compression racing engine with direct manual injection, with the large individual intake trumpets. the engine looks to be in ok shape, as all openings were sealed and the intakes were covered for preservation. The intake cover has Hawk embroided in it.

We would like to have the engine rebuilt. We are not looking to race again and ware not looking to have a 1000hp racing engine, just rebuild this one to as close to its current specs as possible.

Cloud someone please recomend a reliable and knowledgable rebuilder, preferably in the Florida area?
I will post more pics tomorrow.


Thanks !!

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...0905-00073.jpg

Ryan Beckley 09-05-2012 08:59 PM

Innovation Marine, Sarasota
Chief Performance, Fort Luderdale
Ron Potter, Sarasota

TENSION 09-05-2012 09:17 PM

Sweet fuel injection..........cool old school !

Lauderdaleboats 09-06-2012 12:05 AM

Give Gary Smith a call at Carolina Race Engines in Ft Lauderdale. (954) 815-6461 He built many engines at Hawk for years before opening Carolina Racing. He will most likely know the exact build specs of that motor.

Smarty 09-06-2012 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan Beckley (Post 3770477)
Innovation Marine, Sarasota
Chief Performance, Fort Luderdale
Ron Potter, Sarasota

I like the way you think. Great suggestions.

CafeRacerPTY 09-06-2012 10:20 AM

thnks for the suggestion guys.

CafeRacerPTY 09-06-2012 11:03 AM

another question, do you guys think its worthwhile to restore the kinsler mech injection unit or should i place another intake manifold and carbs?

bulletbob 09-06-2012 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by CafeRacerPTY (Post 3770901)
another question, do you guys think its worthwhile to restore the kinsler mech injection unit or should i place another intake manifold and carbs?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but, I think those old systems were setup to basically run wide open most of the time. That may not be the best system for a pleasure boat. i would make a cool static display out of it for your office or home. It looks *****in!

C_Spray 09-06-2012 04:56 PM

The vintage Can-Am race car guys might be all about that mechanical injection.

JeremyAnderson 09-06-2012 05:35 PM

I deal with a lot of constant flow injection systems. The bigest problem they would have is the lack of an acceleration enrichment curcuit. To make the engine accelerate, you have to set the idle REALLY rich. I'm talking choke and gag in no-wake-zone rich.
Kinsler can convert it to EFI. That will make for a bad-ass set up. The mid tange would be unbeleivable! It would sound really sweet too!

CafeRacerPTY 09-06-2012 06:02 PM

here are more pics of the engine. It definetly needs a thorough restoration...

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...6264AB49D3.jpg

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...62587CA9D8.jpg

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...6248965651.jpg

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...6243AA072B.jpg

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...6269E8C3C6.jpg

CafeRacerPTY 09-19-2012 10:21 PM

after much consideration, we have torn down the engine locally and decided to rebuild it with a standard carb/manifold set up.

Upon further inspection of the components once the engine was opened, here is what we found:

the block is a 454 gen IV bowtie tall deck, with 4.500 bore.
heads are GM high perf 118cc
flat top pistons

the crank is a crower with the following specs (which I hope someone here can help me identify)

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...psc3e63e9c.jpg

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2e840f99.jpg

and these engravings, which i wrote down, as well

http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/...psb55abccc.jpg

given that its a tall block and a bowtie, which is already 4.500 bore, I would like to install a 4.500 crank and 6.535 rods , which would make it a 572cid.

What are you guys thoughts on this? has anyone built up this set up before?

Will i have to grind some clearance in the block for the 4.500 crank?

Thanks guys.

byrideroffshore 09-20-2012 06:37 AM

Cice prformance in Ohio has alot fo experience with that setup, Chuck had United racing engines in Miami, was the first builder for Victory team in Dubai.


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