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bcschoe 09-18-2012 08:08 AM

Performance boat school trained or untrained
 
Are you TRAINED or UNTRAINED

As with any type of human performance endeovour the definable measurement bwtween those trained and those untrained is significant.

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tanner 09-18-2012 08:22 AM

The best post I saw so far regarding your school was " If it was more affordable I might consider going" guess his life, his family and friends life isn't worth 1500 bucks !!!

Great School, Everyone needs to attend it, even the super rich and real important people could learn a few things !!!

sy goldberg 09-18-2012 08:35 AM

Re:school
 
And even the people with big egos !

DucBoy 09-18-2012 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by tanner (Post 3778992)
The best post I saw so far regarding your school was " If it was more affordable I might consider going" guess his life, his family and friends life isn't worth 1500 bucks !!!

I think that is an unfortunate comment. It doesn't boil down to $1500 (and I think the price is more depending on the type of boat) - it boils down to a) tuition, b) getting an instructor and your boat in the same location, and c) time - time away from work, time away from family, time away from other obligations - you get the picture (and time away from work means $$ to most of us).

Don't get me wrong - I fully support training and ongoing education in whatever one does (and will make every effort to take Tres' class if he ever gets to Lake Erie or if I ever haul my boat to Florida), but I don't belittle those who admit they can't afford to take a particular course at this particular time. Nor do I suggest that failure to take a particular couse means one is unfit to carry on a particular activity. Was I unfit to ride my motorcycle on the highway before I went to school and received my racing license? No. Was I unfit to scuba dive in Mexico before I received advanced/drysuit/nitrox certification? No. Am I unfit to operate my boat because I have not taken Tres' course? No.

Conversely, was I fit to be on a track at race speeds just because I had a M endorsement on my driver license? No. Was I fit to don a drysuit and dive to 110' in Lake Erie with a nitrox fill without the proper training? No. Am I fit to undertake extreme maneuvering at maximum speed now? Maybe, maybe not, but that is why I operate my boat within the limits of my experience and existing conditions.

Again, I fully support training in general and this training in particular, but I don't think an inference that someone values his family less than $1500 is helpful to anyone.

My $0.02.

R/S,

db

Sunny32SSR 09-18-2012 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by DucBoy (Post 3779026)
I think that is an unfortunate comment. It doesn't boil down to $1500 (and I think the price is more depending on the type of boat) - it boils down to a) tuition, b) getting an instructor and your boat in the same location, and c) time - time away from work, time away from family, time away from other obligations - you get the picture (and time away from work means $$ to most of us).

Don't get me wrong - I fully support training and ongoing education in whatever one does (and will make every effort to take Tres' class if he ever gets to Lake Erie or if I ever haul my boat to Florida), but I don't belittle those who admit they can't afford to take a particular course at this particular time. Nor do I suggest that failure to take a particular couse means one is unfit to carry on a particular activity. Was I unfit to ride my motorcycle on the highway before I went to school and received my racing license? No. Was I unfit to scuba dive in Mexico before I received advanced/drysuit/nitrox certification? No. Am I unfit to operate my boat because I have not taken Tres' course? No.

Conversely, was I fit to be on a track at race speeds just because I had a M endorsement on my driver license? No. Was I fit to don a drysuit and dive to 110' in Lake Erie with a nitrox fill without the proper training? No. Am I fit to undertake extreme maneuvering at maximum speed now? Maybe, maybe not, but that is why I operate my boat within the limits of my experience and existing conditions.

Again, I fully support training in general and this training in particular, but I don't think an inference that someone values his family less than $1500 is helpful to anyone.

My $0.02.

R/S,

db

That could not have been said in any better way. Kudos to you and it's nice to see these words coming from someone running in "big power".

POWERPLAY J 09-18-2012 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by CrownLPX (Post 3779033)
That could not have been said in any better way. Kudos to you and it's nice to see these words coming from someone running in "big power".

+1. I would like to take the course but $1500 is a good chunk of my income.

JD Dearden 09-18-2012 10:04 AM

I have zero formal training and said this to a guy i met in Havasu. He went on to rip me apart for that, my boat was not even running through his entire speech...I than watched him drink about 8 cocktails and leave.

tanner 09-18-2012 10:13 AM

I understand where you are coming from, and I think its great that you are aware enough to run your boat within your own comfort zone and limits, but the other part is that you don't know what you don't know. All I am saying is most people with big horsepower boats could learn alot about there own boats when it comes to the knowledge of high pressure water and low pressure under there hull and how that effects the handling and control.... most just have no idea !!! Lets just say in my personal situation I learned alot that I didnt even know existed right down to the proper way to turn your boat to make sure your props are always in solid water !!!!

Great class period !!!

HUSTLEthis 09-18-2012 11:59 AM

It is a great class.
My wife, Shannon and I took it and would recommend it to anyone that runs the boat...


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