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akaboatman 09-19-2012 06:53 PM

No boat upgrades for Me this winter.
 
Well it looks like My winter money will be going to dirt. But its a good thing. Theres a Man that wants a new pond an has 30000 yards of dirt to dig an move. Well I want a new 50 by 100' shop so there goes any extra money. Well after it sits for a year I can get My new toy box. Can't wait. Artie

soldier4402 09-19-2012 07:09 PM

i never do anything so dont feel to bad. lol

akaboatman 09-19-2012 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3780173)
i never do anything so dont feel to bad. lol

What do You meen? I will still be boating LOL. You meen no up grades? At least I can buff an I still want to pull the eng an paint it but thats about it. I wanted to add a new to Me boat to the famly. Want happen now. I'm really happy to get the dirt. I just hope to get it done for 10 grand. Artie

Jason3603 09-19-2012 07:37 PM

Good luck with the project. That is going to be one awesome shop. I was in the process of building a 40x64 shop but the township I live in put a stop work order to the progress. So it looks like I will be waiting until its all figured out.

akaboatman 09-19-2012 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jason3603 (Post 3780195)
Good luck with the project. That is going to be one awesome shop. I was in the process of building a 40x64 shop but the township I live in put a stop work order to the progress. So it looks like I will be waiting until its all figured out.

Wow. Sorry that sucks. Good luck an if You get it done I would like to hear about it. Hope You can. Artie

PokerRun388 09-19-2012 08:24 PM

Looking forward to hearing about the updates, throughout the winter.

akaboatman 09-19-2012 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by PokerRun388 (Post 3780241)
Looking forward to hearing about the updates, throughout the winter.

Thanks PokerRun388. Just hope I can pull this off. The land is now water an I own the land next to it. This land was duge out in the 50s to build My house on a hill. Theres alot of fill an work to do to get what I want. Geturdone. Artie

the deep 09-19-2012 09:26 PM

Damn Artie , 50'x100' sounds like one hellof an upgrade to me . I hope you are fairing well . Sam

akaboatman 09-19-2012 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3780287)
Damn Artie , 50'x100' sounds like one hellof an upgrade to me . I hope you are fairing well . Sam

I'm getting (Old) LOL. Just want to play at home an make a little money next door. It will be named (Capitan Artie's Dog House). Loft up stairs LOL. Wish Me luck. Lots of money for dirt. Then I have to do it again on My lot next door for condo's in the future. Retirement ??? Hope so. I bought this land for a reason right ? Artie:lolhit:

the deep 09-19-2012 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by akaboatman (Post 3780298)
I'm getting (Old) LOL. Just want to play at home an make a little money next door. It will be named (Capitan Artie's Dog House). Loft up stairs LOL. Wish Me luck. Lots of money for dirt. Then I have to do it again on My lot next door for condo's in the future. Retirement ??? Hope so. I bought this land for a reason right ? Artie:lolhit:

That's right buddy , make that land pay you .

akaboatman 09-19-2012 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3780303)
That's right buddy , make that land pay you .

I sure hope so. If not it's payed for on the water. Love My home. 248' on the water an 500' on the road. Life can be great if You can plan it an pull it off. God willing? Thanks My friend. Artie

Here's Johnny 09-20-2012 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by akaboatman (Post 3780170)
Well it looks like My winter money will be going to dirt. But its a good thing. Theres a Man that wants a new pond an has 30000 yards of dirt to dig an move. Well I want a new 50 by 100' shop so there goes any extra money. Well after it sits for a year I can get My new toy box. Can't wait. Artie

to bad your not within a 100 mile radius of me...... I can get you about 5,000 cubic yards of dirt a day for free..... dirt is my business and I have plenty........

akaboatman 09-20-2012 05:13 AM

Wow I wish. Maybe You could email it to Me. LOL. :party-smiley-004:

LAriverratt 09-20-2012 05:42 AM

gonna be one hell of a shop Artie! a 400ss will fit in there pretty easily :whistle:
let me know when you get to the point you need any other material..sand, gravel, before the concrete gets poored... I'll be glad to get ya what you need with no BS on pricing.

seafordguy 09-20-2012 06:25 AM

I'm with you man - I really would like to put some money in mine this winter (guages, interior leather, etc....) but this winter is the new Dock and Boat Lift. Got my permit working it's way though the system right now. Should leave me broke until next year this time, but well worth it - I'm even renting a 60FOOT excavator to do a little preventative dredging.

Here's Johnny 09-20-2012 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by akaboatman (Post 3780388)
Wow I wish. Maybe You could email it to Me. LOL. :party-smiley-004:

me too......lol......:lolhit:

Rookie17 09-20-2012 06:57 AM

Artie, I'm about to start something similar but the "city" only allows an outbuilding totalling the heated square footage size of the house.
So... about to put an internal sliding door from the dining room into the attached garage with a secondary heat pump installed so I can knock down the 25 x 40 toy house and build a 75 X 50 foot shop out back.

You have no city restrictions like that? I'm sure you've checked but just in case?

soldier4402 09-20-2012 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by akaboatman (Post 3780180)
What do You meen? I will still be boating LOL. You meen no up grades? At least I can buff an I still want to pull the eng an paint it but thats about it. I wanted to add a new to Me boat to the famly. Want happen now. I'm really happy to get the dirt. I just hope to get it done for 10 grand. Artie

well up in NY once winter is here its game over and really game over for any upgrades unless you have a huge shop to work in which I dont so really nothing gets done lol.

LAriverratt 09-20-2012 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Here's Johnny (Post 3780427)
me too......lol......:lolhit:

johnny...dirt/overburden is something that is in my way and I'd love getting rid of it instead of moving it from where it is to another location on the property...that cost me a ton a year to do...if I could email it I'd be one happy SOB and would have the extra $$$ to get me a new rig, :boat:hell even build a new shop to store and maintain it too :lolhit:

Here's Johnny 09-20-2012 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 3780473)
johnny...dirt/overburden is something that is in my way and I'd love getting rid of it instead of moving it from where it is to another location on the property...that cost me a ton a year to do...if I could email it I'd be one happy SOB and would have the extra $$$ to get me a new rig, :boat:hell even build a new shop to store and maintain it too :lolhit:

I hear you.....I am the guy everyone in NYC and the five boro's brings their overburden/excavation/debris to and if I had a way for it to just disappear I would have an Outerlimits and an Azimut on every coast and lake in the country....lol.....

RIPJIVE9311 09-20-2012 01:51 PM

I am an Electrical contractor by trade but have done my share of dirt work and I always come up short,it just dosn't go as far as you think with the compaction.I had dirt piled all over my lot for my house pad and my brother in law(dirt guy) said "where are you getting the rest of it"and I told him he was nuts I would have extra.I ended up finding out where to get more.Make sure it is enough as you will be commited.Good luck with it,all kids need a BIG toybox!!!

akaboatman 09-20-2012 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 3780395)
gonna be one hell of a shop Artie! a 400ss will fit in there pretty easily :whistle:
let me know when you get to the point you need any other material..sand, gravel, before the concrete gets poored... I'll be glad to get ya what you need with no BS on pricing.

Thank You. It will be a while. The land I'm filling was dug when The house was built many years ago. Its water now. I will have to let it sit for a long time. I wish it was filled before Isaac. My land was under water for 9 days. that would have helped settle it. When I get there I will give You a shout. Artie

akaboatman 09-20-2012 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3780410)
I'm with you man - I really would like to put some money in mine this winter (guages, interior leather, etc....) but this winter is the new Dock and Boat Lift. Got my permit working it's way though the system right now. Should leave me broke until next year this time, but well worth it - I'm even renting a 60FOOT excavator to do a little preventative dredging.

Wow thats great. That will be sweet. An I need a excavator an a dozer. Artie

akaboatman 09-20-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie17 (Post 3780435)
Artie, I'm about to start something similar but the "city" only allows an outbuilding totalling the heated square footage size of the house.
So... about to put an internal sliding door from the dining room into the attached garage with a secondary heat pump installed so I can knock down the 25 x 40 toy house and build a 75 X 50 foot shop out back.

You have no city restrictions like that? I'm sure you've checked but just in case?

That sounds nice. I'm not in the city. So no real problems there. The slab will flood some times. but Im going with 16' walls. I want to build a room in the back in the loft that wan't flood. A friend of mine has a 50 by 100 with 14' walls. He said He wishes He would have went with 16' walls. He allso told Me to move the front wall in 20 or 25' an leave the roof for a overhang. That does sound like a plan. Just not sure if I wan't to lose the indoor space. It would be nice to work out side with a breeze some time. What do Y'all think? Artie

akaboatman 09-20-2012 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by soldier4402 (Post 3780457)
well up in NY once winter is here its game over and really game over for any upgrades unless you have a huge shop to work in which I dont so really nothing gets done lol.

I don't think I could make it there. We don't freeze much here. We still fish all winter. Got to stock up on spec's an reds LOL. Hope You at least get some new toys for Your boat that You can install when it warms up. Artie

akaboatman 09-20-2012 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by RIPJIVE9311 (Post 3780844)
I am an Electrical contractor by trade but have done my share of dirt work and I always come up short,it just dosn't go as far as you think with the compaction.I had dirt piled all over my lot for my house pad and my brother in law(dirt guy) said "where are you getting the rest of it"and I told him he was nuts I would have extra.I ended up finding out where to get more.Make sure it is enough as you will be commited.Good luck with it,all kids need a BIG toybox!!!

I can use all I can get. I own the lot next door I want to build on later. Theres a 42' canal between My 2 property's. The city told Me to buy the pipe an dirt an they will do the work. 200' of 48" pipe. But that is another story lol. Artie

LAriverratt 09-21-2012 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by akaboatman (Post 3780975)
That sounds nice. I'm not in the city. So no real problems there. The slab will flood some times. but Im going with 16' walls. I want to build a room in the back in the loft that wan't flood. A friend of mine has a 50 by 100 with 14' walls. He said He wishes He would have went with 16' walls. He allso told Me to move the front wall in 20 or 25' an leave the roof for a overhang. That does sound like a plan. Just not sure if I wan't to lose the indoor space. It would be nice to work out side with a breeze some time. What do Y'all think? Artie

16' min on walls for loft is correct. what slope roof??? the more pitch the better. I have a 1 on 4 and that's too flat. my dad's 1 on 8 and much better on run off and it just looks good IMO. of course mine and dads are 40' wide and not 50".the over hang is the way to go too. hate opening my role ups and water being blown in or the sun beating down on me. One other thing Artie. not sure if you are doing insulation or not but the double bubble insulation had a defect when me and dad built...he used a different buiders...and the ultraviolet light deteriorates the coating on it so it starts falling of...little white peaces everywhere :mad: when the wind blows in. like dandruff. check to make sure they have solved that issue or go with something else.

P.S. figure 30-35% compaction on dirt...and i personally would use fill sand ( 10-15% compaction) as the base but but that cost more.

wrinkleface 09-21-2012 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Jason3603 (Post 3780195)
Good luck with the project. That is going to be one awesome shop. I was in the process of building a 40x64 shop but the township I live in put a stop work order to the progress. So it looks like I will be waiting until its all figured out.

Well if ya hadn't got caught mess'n round w/ the bldg inspectors daughter!!!!:evilb::evilb:

soldier4402 09-21-2012 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by akaboatman (Post 3780978)
I don't think I could make it there. We don't freeze much here. We still fish all winter. Got to stock up on spec's an reds LOL. Hope You at least get some new toys for Your boat that You can install when it warms up. Artie

Last winter was very very mild. I think it averagesd in the 40's all winter. But usually were right around high teens all winter with a few feet of snow. So like I said up here when its packed up for winter its packed. Unless your lucky enough to have a huge barn which still can be cold unless you spend a lot of effort and time heating it. Which most people will heat but usually enough to take the bite off inside maybe like 50 degress.

We really have 12 weeks of boating between memorial and labor day, but if we get unlucky its not nice enough till mid June or late june. If we get lucky we get a a week or two on each end. But already its in the 50's cloudy and rainy.

Jason3603 09-21-2012 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3781474)
Well if ya hadn't got caught mess'n round w/ the bldg inspectors daughter!!!!:evilb::evilb:

I thought that was going to help the situation!!! Go figure.

The zoning board meeting is on November 6th. I had all the neighbors within a block of me sign a petition saying they were good with it. Most were delighted to do so.

:hijack:

akaboatman 09-22-2012 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 3781369)
16' min on walls for loft is correct. what slope roof??? the more pitch the better. I have a 1 on 4 and that's too flat. my dad's 1 on 8 and much better on run off and it just looks good IMO. of course mine and dads are 40' wide and not 50".the over hang is the way to go too. hate opening my role ups and water being blown in or the sun beating down on me. One other thing Artie. not sure if you are doing insulation or not but the double bubble insulation had a defect when me and dad built...he used a different buiders...and the ultraviolet light deteriorates the coating on it so it starts falling of...little white peaces everywhere :mad: when the wind blows in. like dandruff. check to make sure they have solved that issue or go with something else.

P.S. figure 30-35% compaction on dirt...and i personally would use fill sand ( 10-15% compaction) as the base but but that cost more.

Thank You. You can never know enough. That insulatin would realy hurt. I can only do the top an 8' do to water. Artie

LAriverratt 09-22-2012 05:33 AM

I can post a couple pics of dads and mine so you can see what a difference the slope makes in appearance and room inside if you want. Next time I'm up in the great north (centerville MS :cartman::lolhit:) i"ll take a few of his.
don't know about you but I need a visual on things like this, have a hard time seeing it in my head even tho I know and understand the "lingo" i still am way better off seeing it.:crazy: LOL
Just let me know.

akaboatman 09-22-2012 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 3782080)
I can post a couple pics of dads and mine so you can see what a difference the slope makes in appearance and room inside if you want. Next time I'm up in the great north (centerville MS :cartman::lolhit:) i"ll take a few of his.
don't know about you but I need a visual on things like this, have a hard time seeing it in my head even tho I know and understand the "lingo" i still am way better off seeing it.:crazy: LOL
Just let me know.

LOL.Me too. I think its some thing in our food. Or what ever it is We keep looking for in the bottom of the (Crown) bottle. LOL. Pics would be nice. Thanks Artie Ps. Are You taking the boat out today?

LAriverratt 09-22-2012 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by akaboatman (Post 3782152)
LOL.Me too. I think its some thing in our food. Or what ever it is We keep looking for in the bottom of the (Crown) bottle. LOL. Pics would be nice. Thanks Artie Ps. Are You taking the boat out today?

i'll get some pics soon for ya.

if you call going from our place to boopalous going out in the boat, then yes we are LOL. gonna catch the LSU game there and have a few turkey and cokes :D I'll check for the "whatever" to see if its in the bottom of my bottle today...never seen it before but I really can't say or remember if I've ever looked either:drink::lolhit:


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