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88Force265 10-28-2012 08:40 PM

noobish Sterndrive Question.
 
Alright so i have the 88 force with the twin 350's when im looking at boats with a dual set up they have that connecting bar between the stern drives. What is it/for do i need it mine currently did not come with one.

Thanks

glassdave 10-28-2012 08:46 PM

your boat should have an internal tie bar. Its a good idea to get an external one on there, much more stable and stronger. I'm guessing its an Alpha boat?

commandersander 10-28-2012 08:46 PM

Outer tie bar
 
It is mandatory if you have hydraulic external steering.....plus it looks cool.

Here is the thing.....if you have an external, make sure you get rid of the internal. If you have both, you can/will break a gimbal ring

88Force265 10-28-2012 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 3804755)
your boat should have an internal tie bar. Its a good idea to get an external one on there, much more stable and stronger. I'm guessing its an Alpha boat?

yes it is an alpha

88Force265 10-28-2012 08:51 PM

what does the internal one look like so i know what im looking for?

commandersander 10-28-2012 08:53 PM

Prolly half to 5/8 rod connecting the two tiller arms together
All the way back on the inside against the transom.....with a heim joint on each end

US1 Fountain 10-28-2012 08:58 PM

You can run with both an internal and external bar. You have to always trim them both together. Can't raise 1 drive and not the other w/o parts breaking. I actually prefer to use both bars if not equiped with ext. hyd steering. Just running an external bar puts all the force on the starboard steering lever. The internal bar spreads that force equally to both drives.

88Force265 10-28-2012 09:04 PM

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...13331162_n.jpg

soo i have internal steering correct? if it was external the hydro cyl would be mounted here where you could see it?

88Force265 10-28-2012 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3804769)
You can run with both an internal and external bar. You have to always trim them both together. Can't raise 1 drive and not the other w/o parts breaking. I actually prefer to use both bars if not equiped with ext. hyd steering. Just running an external bar puts all the force on the starboard steering lever. The internal bar spreads that force equally to both drives.

With just the internal bar are you supposed to raise and lower them together as well or does this not matter unless you have the external one too.

US1 Fountain 10-28-2012 09:29 PM

With just internal (or just external) you can trim separately with no problems.

The issue with the external bars is that when you trim 1 drive up and not the other, the drives will pull in towards each other. So you have the internal bar (which in unaffected to trim) trying to hold the 2 steering levers at a set dimension, with zero give and the external bar pulling the drives closer. Something has to give. Usually in form of premature steering lever/pin wear giving steering slop, or breaking stuff.

My cruiser has both and the standard power steering setup. I replaced both transom assemblies 3 yrs ago with new, so I make sure both drive are trimmed at exact same level. My drives are solid as a rock w/o having true ext hyd. I believe Merc has /had??? a kit that prevents drives from being trimmed at more than few degrees differences for the dual bar setups. A small difference isn't a problem, especially with the saddles allowing for a little bit of flexibility by pivoting fore and back


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