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benjen 11-18-2012 11:55 AM

Boat Price
 
Hi, looking for help/advice. In this economy when boats are worth half of what they should be. What is everybodies opinion on how to arrive at a price. I am toying with the idea of selling my boat without motors. Is that a big mistake? Should I just power it up? It's a 39' Sutphen with Number 6 drives. The drives alone bring close to $40K. So, what's the boat worth.

offshoresteve 11-18-2012 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by benjen (Post 3817434)
Hi, looking for help/advice. In this economy when boats are worth half of what they should be. What is everybodies opinion on how to arrive at a price. I am toying with the idea of selling my boat without motors. Is that a big mistake? Should I just power it up? It's a 39' Sutphen with Number 6 drives. The drives alone bring close to $40K. So, what's the boat worth.

Did you buy that boat from Fred Cecil? I remember he had a white 39 with #6.
Are the #6 dry or wet sump, will it be fully rigged less motors? I have tried to sell performance boats in the past without motors.....it's kind of hard unless you want to take a hit,.....everyone seems to want to test drive it . Good luck with your sale.

jeff32 11-18-2012 05:26 PM

I see it's a 92.... seems like old hull don't brings much $$$... except Apache! I think, or I'm effraid, your boat is worth more parting it out... just like any older boat...

benjen 11-18-2012 08:36 PM

No, the boat was not from Fred Cecil. The drives are wet sumped and yes it can be fully rigged. I have every nut and bolt to put it together. In fact I can sell it with the broken power. All new parts except what broke of course!

articfriends 11-19-2012 12:34 AM

There was a even older one around here for sale forever, hard sale without power as it becomes a project boat to all the people except hardcore guys and they usually have enough un-finished things sitting around already, Smitty
The number sixe's IMO will help sell the boat as wet sump old ones don't bring real big cash anymore anyways

benjen 11-19-2012 06:40 AM

Well, I guess like every one perhaps we think our possessions are worth more than the next guy's. But, in the case of a Sutphen, although not an Apache I think they are a bit unique. The year isn't quite as important as the hull has not changed since..........well since forever. You don't need to contact 20 people to find out what year this hull worked with 2 steps, 3 steps, 4 steps. You get the idea! This boat has less than 400 original hours on it and is an original 6 boat. Probably not a hole bunch of these out there. Potentially (if I hadn't had all these issues) this should be the fastest Sutphen on the planet.

kreed 11-19-2012 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by benjen (Post 3817812)
Potentially (if I hadn't had all these issues) this should be the fastest Sutphen on the planet.

Now THATS cool! Hahaha, good luck with the sale! Any pics of this boat?

pondrunner 11-19-2012 07:01 AM

I believe that in today's economy, people are simply out looking for a steal. There are plenty of people hurting that just want to dump the boat or need the cash. That is what buyers are looking for. Its not that the boat isn't worth the price, its just that there are so many "deals" out there to be had that it makes a legit, fair deal, less attractive. Buc Valu has boats listed about ten grand under what most would consider the real value of their boat. For a ten year old or newer boat, banks will loan on NADA minus 10%...I think thats a good number to ask.

lernin-t-fly 11-19-2012 10:11 AM

post some pics

benjen 11-19-2012 11:38 AM

I am not able to post pics or at least I don't know how. If you send me an email to [email protected] I can send you pics. If someone could post the pics that would be great.

Nickotine 11-20-2012 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by benjen (Post 3817974)
I am not able to post pics or at least I don't know how. If you send me an email to [email protected] I can send you pics. If someone could post the pics that would be great.

If you want me to post pictures, feel free to email me: [email protected]

Nick

articfriends 11-20-2012 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by benjen (Post 3817812)
Well, I guess like every one perhaps we think our possessions are worth more than the next guy's. But, in the case of a Sutphen, although not an Apache I think they are a bit unique. The year isn't quite as important as the hull has not changed since..........well since forever. You don't need to contact 20 people to find out what year this hull worked with 2 steps, 3 steps, 4 steps. You get the idea! This boat has less than 400 original hours on it and is an original 6 boat. Probably not a hole bunch of these out there. Potentially (if I hadn't had all these issues) this should be the fastest Sutphen on the planet.

The 39 sutphen that was around here a local guy bought running but in need of attention (called bad frog-it was green and had I think # 5's on boxes on it). Anyways I think the guy paid about 15,000-20,000 or so for it but it was a 1979, he fixed all the little problems, totally re-arranged the cockpit to make it less of a 3 man race boat and more pleasure (at least thats what he said he was going to do) and I saw it sitting behind his shop for 2 1/2 years after that, he was trying to turn it for 60 g's and I don't know what he ever did with it, Smitty

h2oboater 11-20-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3818778)
The 39 sutphen that was around here a local guy bought running but in need of attention (called bad frog-it was green and had I think # 5's on boxes on it). Anyways I think the guy paid about 15,000-20,000 or so for it but it was a 1979, he fixed all the little problems, totally re-arranged the cockpit to make it less of a 3 man race boat and more pleasure (at least thats what he said he was going to do) and I saw it sitting behind his shop for 2 1/2 years after that, he was trying to turn it for 60 g's and I don't know what he ever did with it, Smitty

That would be this Sutphen that Roger Munn raced back in the day. I believe it sold for 20k to 25k and went to Europe ??

242LS 11-20-2012 08:28 PM

Pix from Benjen via Nicotine
 
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Beautiful!

articfriends 11-20-2012 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3818861)
That would be this Sutphen that Roger Munn raced back in the day. I believe it sold for 20k to 25k and went to Europe ??

Yes, when Rich Rigda bought that boat it was green and I think set up for 3 man stand up bolsters, he planned on re-arranging the cockpit and painting it (he obviously did paint it) the he was trying to get 60,000$ for it, his shop is next door to where I work my night job so I seen that boat every day for a long time after it was finished sitting around for sale, Smitty

IronRevolution 11-21-2012 08:25 AM

The 1979 Sutphen doesn't really seem relevant in regards to gauging market prices or comparable really in any way. The two boats don't really have anything in common besides the brand name. To me asking $60k for the '79 is extremely high when this boat looks to be a nice deal at that price.


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