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hotjava66 12-13-2012 03:39 PM

Water levels here on Saginaw Bay/Lake Huron are now at record lows. Was working the other day on Sand Point near Caseville MI, at the end of the point there was over a mile of lake bottom exposed out from the normal waters edge. Took a pic but didn't download to the laptop yet. Praying for some heavy snows in the north this year.

82predictor 12-13-2012 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by n20michael (Post 3830998)
I am in a bay in the 1000 Islands, St Lawrence River is SCARY low! Lowest I have seen in my lifetime [40years] I had some dredging done a few years ago, and will probably have to do some more, just hope the "rest" of the bay stays deep enough to get out into the river, I am hearing reports of ships running aground ALL the time, and the car ferry that travels between Kingston and the Island we are on has BARELY enough water to run in, I hate to think what the water levels will be like if we get no snow again this year. My neighbour has less than a foot of water in her boathouse and it used to be over my head :-[

Must be the bottling plants taking all the water, Geez, EVERYWHERE else I see on TV is being hit with flooding!!??

You must be on wolfe island. We are right accross the way in cape vincent. 2 weeks ago there was 8" at the end of our dock, its usually 4-5 feet! We better get some snow real quick or we are all done for next year! My brother in law had trouble getting his boat on at the ramp in october and its gone way down since then!

n20michael 12-14-2012 03:16 AM

YEP!! We are on the South shore of Wolfe Island, straight across from Millens Bay, near the East end of Carlton Island, there is a big red channel marker at the mouth of our Bay (Murry Bay)

Water is CRAZY low! I may do some more dredging, but, it's pointless to dredge in front of my place if the water is too shallow elsewhere to get out to the river. Sure hope we get snow, rain does nothing, we need snow, and LOTS of it!

Cape Vincent is awesome, used to go to Captain Jacks years ago, now we take the ferry at Hornes point and go to the Antique Museum in Clayton, and always go to the French Festival at the Cape, good hearing from ya! Neighbour!

Drock78 12-14-2012 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hotjava66 (Post 3831443)
Water levels here on Saginaw Bay/Lake Huron are now at record lows. Was working the other day on Sand Point near Caseville MI, at the end of the point there was over a mile of lake bottom exposed out from the normal waters edge. Took a pic but didn't download to the laptop yet. Praying for some heavy snows in the north this year.

Here you go Eric...

chrisf695 12-14-2012 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 3831720)
Here you go Eric...


That is seriously scary...

freshwaterfiend 12-14-2012 11:43 AM

Holy crap.

Dean Ferry 12-14-2012 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 3831720)
Here you go Eric...

WOW !:eekdrop:

scarab63 12-14-2012 12:03 PM

crazy low...
 
That's what's good about the ocean. It might rot my motor until it looks like a crack heads teeth......but at least the water levels are consistent.....some of the time.:lolhit:

4bus 12-14-2012 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by n20michael (Post 3831719)
YEP!! We are on the South shore of Wolfe Island, straight across from Millens Bay, near the East end of Carlton Island, there is a big red channel marker at the mouth of our Bay (Murry Bay)

Water is CRAZY low! I may do some more dredging, but, it's pointless to dredge in front of my place if the water is too shallow elsewhere to get out to the river. Sure hope we get snow, rain does nothing, we need snow, and LOTS of it!

Cape Vincent is awesome, used to go to Captain Jacks years ago, now we take the ferry at Hornes point and go to the Antique Museum in Clayton, and always go to the French Festival at the Cape, good hearing from ya! Neighbour!

Too bad most of the snow in the GL region is lake effect, formed by the evaporation of water from the lakes....not sure how that is going to help :lolhit:

4bus 12-14-2012 12:15 PM

I will agree, the water level in the NE has been bad the second half of '12, but let us not forget that in the spring of 2011 they had many local lakes and canals closed because the water level was too HIGH!

The SE and middle the of the country is a different story, some of you are approaching a decade of drought....which makes us in the NE complaining about the second half of our '12 season seem petty :D

Interceptor 12-14-2012 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by hotjava66 (Post 3831443)
Water levels here on Saginaw Bay/Lake Huron are now at record lows. Was working the other day on Sand Point near Caseville MI, at the end of the point there was over a mile of lake bottom exposed out from the normal waters edge. Took a pic but didn't download to the laptop yet. Praying for some heavy snows in the north this year.

We need a hard freeze on the big lakes with snow on top other wise everything evaporates and goes elsewhere.

BlueOval 12-14-2012 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3832030)
We need a hard freeze on the big lakes with snow on top other wise everything evaporates and goes elsewhere.

I agree, not looking good this weekend, calling for rain, you know the rain will only be a mist. Snow is gone again and lake temp is staying up, not good.

n20michael 12-14-2012 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3831927)
Too bad most of the snow in the GL region is lake effect, formed by the evaporation of water from the lakes....not sure how that is going to help :lolhit:

I was referring to the several FEET of snow that area's NORTH of the GL region used to get, that in turn melted and fed the tributaries and eventually the great lakes

Pretty sure the 8ft of snow that was in Ottawa when I was there a few years ago WASN'T lake effect snow, but, maybe you could clear that up for me.

Following your theory the lack of snow over the last few years would mean an INCREASE in water levels, would it not???

Full Force 12-14-2012 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3832030)
We need a hard freeze on the big lakes with snow on top other wise everything evaporates and goes elsewhere.

Yep, we need the great lakes to freeze all winter to keep it from evaporating,and TONS of snow up north, the snow on the states side of the country dont really help much, its the snow up far north that trickles down into the great lakes and helps...

so far this winter is just like last years and we are gonna be screwed next boating season, the western basin of Lake Erie is shallow enough now, hate to see it worse...

1989mach1 12-14-2012 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 3832059)
Yep, we need the great lakes to freeze all winter to keep it from evaporating,and TONS of snow up north, the snow on the states side of the country dont really help much, its the snow up far north that trickles down into the great lakes and helps...

so far this winter is just like last years and we are gonna be screwed next boating season, the western basin of Lake Erie is shallow enough now, hate to see it worse...

+1 if it gets any worse we will have to anchor out and walk in when we go to pib. :poopoo:

Donzi ZX 12-14-2012 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3831927)
Too bad most of the snow in the GL region is lake effect, formed by the evaporation of water from the lakes....not sure how that is going to help :lolhit:

I'll take a stab at explaining it...lake effect is formed when warmer air from over the lake dumps moisture as the air passes over the cooler land, keeping the snowfall (moisture) closer to shore, which eventually melts and ends up back in the lake. When the winter is warmer, it causes more water to evap from the lake, and since the land is warmer than the lake, the moisture in the air gets carried further inland, so most of it doesn't end up back in the lake.

Interceptor 12-14-2012 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 3832059)
Yep, we need the great lakes to freeze all winter to keep it from evaporating,and TONS of snow up north, the snow on the states side of the country dont really help much, its the snow up far north that trickles down into the great lakes and helps...

so far this winter is just like last years and we are gonna be screwed next boating season, the western basin of Lake Erie is shallow enough now, hate to see it worse...

Here's another fact that doesn't help the Great Lakes. About 90% of the snow that falls in Ontario melts into river that drain NORTH into Hudson Bay. Very few northern Ontario rivers drain into Superior.
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n20michael 12-15-2012 02:23 AM

The weather "experts?" Around here on the various weather channels and news programs are predicting a "normal" winter for snowfall, we aren't supposed to get TONS, but we aren't supposed to get none, however these are the geniuses who can't predict rain accurately a day ahead of time, so, I wouldn't bank on there predictions being overly accurate )-:

4bus 12-15-2012 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by n20michael (Post 3832056)
I was referring to the several FEET of snow that area's NORTH of the GL region used to get, that in turn melted and fed the tributaries and eventually the great lakes

Pretty sure the 8ft of snow that was in Ottawa when I was there a few years ago WASN'T lake effect snow, but, maybe you could clear that up for me.

Following your theory the lack of snow over the last few years would mean an INCREASE in water levels, would it not???

Ya know, I forget there is a whole nuther country north of the lakes, and I have no idea of your climatology. In fact, I just figured you guys had snow all year up there :lolhit:

Now that you have shed new light, I am hoping for 12-18 ft of system snow for our neighbors to the north, to then melt off and fill the lakes.

4bus 12-15-2012 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Donzi ZX (Post 3832078)
I'll take a stab at explaining it...lake effect is formed when warmer air from over the lake dumps moisture as the air passes over the cooler land, keeping the snowfall (moisture) closer to shore, which eventually melts and ends up back in the lake. When the winter is warmer, it causes more water to evap from the lake, and since the land is warmer than the lake, the moisture in the air gets carried further inland, so most of it doesn't end up back in the lake.

Eh, what we need is a few systems to come though and leave a wide spread snow pack on the entire region. The last time that happened in NY was 2/11!

MrCIG 12-15-2012 06:31 PM

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Here is Hammond Indiana on Lake Michigan. We used to be able to drive our inflatable under the ramps

Payton 12-16-2012 07:06 AM

Wow, maybe I should go for a walk by Wells Street Beach and see if I can find that anchor I lost there a couple of years ago.

This website, http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/_kd/It...ation=ShowItem , says we are at about the same level as the alltime low in 1963.

n20michael 12-16-2012 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3832229)
Here's another fact that doesn't help the Great Lakes. About 90% of the snow that falls in Ontario melts into river that drain NORTH into Hudson Bay. Very few northern Ontario rivers drain into Superior.
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Agreed, I have a buddy on Pigeon Lake, about 2 hours N/W of me and the water levels there have hardly moved. It's not anywhere near the size of the Great Lakes, but, it's a good size lake and isn't landlocked

I don't think it helps when they put Hydro Electric Dams on every body of water either, it seems they are "everywhere" up here

BBCLiberator 12-23-2012 01:56 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/low-water-rive...181848393.html


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