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Nightlife1970 12-18-2012 01:11 AM

LED Lights
 
I know I Know it's been talked about alot.

What I want to know is what strips you are using?

Are you using 5050, 3528 or some other type?

I am looking for the brightest RGB strip I can get. Plan to do a lot with this stuff so I want to know what is the best one to get.

Drock78 12-18-2012 02:12 AM

from what ive read alot of guys are using the ones from superbtightleds.com too but not sure which model. i want to use the 5050 too but not sure how much the "waterproof" would really matter since they will be high in the engine compartment and the cabin. If water is that high, $150 in lights is the least of my worries.

Baja_342 12-18-2012 08:30 AM

I bought these for under my deck by the hot tub. EXTREMELY happy with them. Boat is next. Shipped quickly from Ping Pong.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110966703890...84.m1497.l2649

Bright white light when you need to see. Endless color/speed changes. Very bright with dimming ability. Only thing that makes them "waterproof" is the strip is inside a clear flex tube.

Connectors at the end to add and control multiple strips from one remote/power source.

ALL_IN! 12-18-2012 03:06 PM

I'm considering the 5050's for "runway" lights on the trailer.

Drock78 12-18-2012 03:10 PM

5050's arent waterproof are they?

pstorti 12-18-2012 03:22 PM

Get the 5050 but the brightest are 300 smd, you can also get a music controller for the lights works awesome!! I get them from amazon. They are supposedly waterproof but they only last me one season. But who cares three 16.4ft rolls and one controller is less than $100.

ALL_IN! 12-18-2012 03:23 PM

We'll see.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-10M-15M-2...-/170921682766

ALL_IN! 12-18-2012 03:33 PM

Are you saying the 300smd is brighter than the 5050? I haven't been able to find any specs yet.

If so, good info.


Originally Posted by pstorti (Post 3833897)
Get the 5050 but the brightest are 300 smd, you can also get a music controller for the lights works awesome!! I get them from amazon. They are supposedly waterproof but they only last me one season. But who cares three 16.4ft rolls and one controller is less than $100.


Nightlife1970 12-18-2012 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by easyrider1340 (Post 3833905)
Are you saying the 300smd is brighter than the 5050? I haven't been able to find any specs yet.

If so, good info.

Well if I am not mistaken 300 SMD just means 300 surface mount diods.

Nightlife1970 12-18-2012 04:40 PM

From what I can tell it looks like the 3528's are not water proof and the 5050's are. Other than that it looks like they are the same

Nightlife1970 12-18-2012 05:06 PM

Well the best deal I could find on a buy it now was 15.99 for just a roll. That was a 300 RGB strip. Says they are 3528's and waterproof. If you need a control there were cheaper package deals from other places. I just want to LED's gonna get a different control.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/RGB-5M-3528-...item3ccb47ea80

pstorti 12-18-2012 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Nightlife1970 (Post 3833931)
Well if I am not mistaken 300 SMD just means 300 surface mount diods.

Correct they make 150 and 300 versions obviously the 300's are brighter. I have always bought the 5050 version from amazon

ICDEDPPL 12-18-2012 11:13 PM

SMD 5050 LED Flex Strip light
They are called SMD 5050 because the dimensions of the chips are 5.0mm x 5.0mm. These LED chips have 3 LED chips in one housing (sometimes called tri-chips), and are a lot brighter than individual 3528 LED chips.

They are used when you need high illumination for your project area. Theoreticly, SMD 5050 LEDs can offer a light output 3 times that of the 3528 strips, and therefore the 5050 LED is well suited for lighting up areas that may be subject to high levels of ambient light.

Though they produce more heat, it is still drastically lower than other lighting options. The 5050's are different from the 3528 LEDs in that 5050s can combine the three different chips to inside the housing to create millions of color variations. The 3528 SMD led strips come in one color only.









They are called SMD3528 because the dimension of the chip is 3.5mm * 2.8mm. These LED chips (one LED per lighting source) are bright but not as bright as the 5050. These lights are great for LCD TV backlighting, color splashing walls, accent lighting for plants, pictures, under tables, bars, etc. 3528 LEDs can be most cost effective, but will not be as bright when compared individually to a 5050 chip.

However, we offer LED single-color flex strips with a large number of 3528 LEDs per foot compared to our competitors! PAY ATTENTION to how many LEDs/ Meter or Foot. You may be getting a lower price per reel or by the foot, but you are not getting as many LEDs!







http://www.bestlightingbuy.com/media/wysiwyg/SMD.jpg

Nightlife1970 12-19-2012 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3834159)
SMD 5050 LED Flex Strip light
They are called SMD 5050 because the dimensions of the chips are 5.0mm x 5.0mm. These LED chips have 3 LED chips in one housing (sometimes called tri-chips), and are a lot brighter than individual 3528 LED chips.

They are used when you need high illumination for your project area. Theoreticly, SMD 5050 LEDs can offer a light output 3 times that of the 3528 strips, and therefore the 5050 LED is well suited for lighting up areas that may be subject to high levels of ambient light.

Though they produce more heat, it is still drastically lower than other lighting options. The 5050's are different from the 3528 LEDs in that 5050s can combine the three different chips to inside the housing to create millions of color variations. The 3528 SMD led strips come in one color only.









They are called SMD3528 because the dimension of the chip is 3.5mm * 2.8mm. These LED chips (one LED per lighting source) are bright but not as bright as the 5050. These lights are great for LCD TV backlighting, color splashing walls, accent lighting for plants, pictures, under tables, bars, etc. 3528 LEDs can be most cost effective, but will not be as bright when compared individually to a 5050 chip.

However, we offer LED single-color flex strips with a large number of 3528 LEDs per foot compared to our competitors! PAY ATTENTION to how many LEDs/ Meter or Foot. You may be getting a lower price per reel or by the foot, but you are not getting as many LEDs!







http://www.bestlightingbuy.com/media/wysiwyg/SMD.jpg

Good info, because alot of the sellers on Ebay list them as 3528/5050 SMD stips. Going to have to pay attention to what they are selling.

Nightlife1970 12-30-2012 06:18 PM

Well I bought a setup to play with. SMD5050 with a 44 key remote for $22. Stuff is bright and I can see me doing alot with it.

Drock78 12-30-2012 06:23 PM

Pics?

Nightlife1970 12-30-2012 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 3839883)
Pics?

Have not installed it yet. Just playing with it at this point.

Drock78 12-30-2012 06:41 PM

I take it that they are the ones that switch colors?

Nightlife1970 12-30-2012 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Drock78 (Post 3839892)
I take it that they are the ones that switch colors?

Yes RGB.

With the right control you pretty much can do any color. Even this basic one does a 7 color fade change with strobe.

PremierPOWER 12-30-2012 07:50 PM

We are in the middle of putting in (16) 36" Maxxima red 5050's in the Donzi. They are very bright and waterproof.

Nightlife1970 12-30-2012 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 3839920)
We are in the middle of putting in (16) 36" Maxxima red 5050's in the Donzi. They are very bright and waterproof.

You can buy it in rolls for much less and cut it to the length you want. 5 meters of 5050 is less than $20 on Ebay.

PQ29 12-31-2012 09:14 AM

Not being overly handy with wiring I had a question about this kit. It says 12 V DC but in the picture it shows has a regular 120 outlet plug. Can I just cut off the that plug and put on connectors and hook it to the batteries?

http://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-TT-...I2RDAXE14BUDAA

fleg1 12-31-2012 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Nightlife1970 (Post 3839877)
Well I bought a setup to play with. SMD5050 with a 44 key remote for $22. Stuff is bright and I can see me doing alot with it.

Where did you buy it at??

Nightlife1970 12-31-2012 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by PQ29 (Post 3840127)
Not being overly handy with wiring I had a question about this kit. It says 12 V DC but in the picture it shows has a regular 120 outlet plug. Can I just cut off the that plug and put on connectors and hook it to the batteries?

http://www.amazon.com/TaoTronics-TT-...I2RDAXE14BUDAA

It may come with a pigtail for 12volt. If not it is a common plug just go to Radio shack and buy one. You may want that 120volt adaptor for latter.

Jeff,

This is the one I bought to play with. I will be getting waterproof ones for the boat I think.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-5050-RGB-...item4d009baa33

US1 Fountain 12-31-2012 04:22 PM

Made this from the 3528 $15 ebay LED roll. So far they seem to be holding up. I'd think the turning off/on at this rate will shorten the lifespan considerably?? I also bought a roll of Pipe Dream Leds to light up the inside of my speakers, but that was $120 for a 15' roll. Do to the work involved on those, I didn't want to risk having the cheap ones burn out. There is a big difference in quality between the 2 set, not sure its a $100 difference though. :). The Pipe Dreams have a wider voltage span that I preferred for when in my slip and plugged into shore power, where my battery charger will hit 15v?? during the 1st stage, where as the ebay ones have a tighter voltage range, as I understand it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpuQCw5s5iQ

hotjava66 12-31-2012 04:24 PM

I need to redo a bunch of mine in the boat. The cheap ones I got off eBay just don't hold up. The wire connections are always breaking off and are so small they are hard to fix. Let me know if you find some good ones.

Velocity Vector 12-31-2012 04:33 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z232OOUNJMY

neva satisfied 12-31-2012 05:19 PM

Do yourself a favor and buy the no solder connectors. Unless you are VERY good at soldering and have a good quality gun, you will find it very difficult to solder the pig tails to the strips if you cut them.

hotjava66 12-31-2012 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by neva satisfied (Post 3840352)
Do yourself a favor and buy the no solder connectors. Unless you are VERY good at soldering and have a good quality gun, you will find it very difficult to solder the pig tails to the strips if you cut them.

X100
The factory solder joints on mine break off and it's near impossible to solder them back on. Less aggravation to just replace em

Nightlife1970 01-01-2013 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3840327)
Made this from the 3528 $15 ebay LED roll. So far they seem to be holding up. I'd think the turning off/on at this rate will shorten the lifespan considerably?? I also bought a roll of Pipe Dream Leds to light up the inside of my speakers, but that was $120 for a 15' roll. Do to the work involved on those, I didn't want to risk having the cheap ones burn out. There is a big difference in quality between the 2 set, not sure its a $100 difference though. :). The Pipe Dreams have a wider voltage span that I preferred for when in my slip and plugged into shore power, where my battery charger will hit 15v?? during the 1st stage, where as the ebay ones have a tighter voltage range, as I understand it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpuQCw5s5iQ

What control are you using?

Are those just a single color LED?

PremierPOWER 01-04-2013 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Nightlife1970 (Post 3839936)
You can buy it in rolls for much less and cut it to the length you want. 5 meters of 5050 is less than $20 on Ebay.

How is the quality? I love eBay for certain things but when it comes to anything lighting, a lot of stuff on there is complete junk

Nightlife1970 01-04-2013 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 3842376)
How is the quality? I love eBay for certain things but when it comes to anything lighting, a lot of stuff on there is complete junk

From what I can see it, is the same stuff that you buy at the Auto parts store. It's just alot cheaper. Have not installed any of it yet. But I have been tinkering with it. A 7' piece I stuck to a plastic trim is still stuck, and has not broken or anything.

If I can find out what control US1 Fountain is using, I am going to do some reall intresting stuff with this.

Rambocj7 01-04-2013 03:17 PM

Would love to get a music controller for mine! Where do you get that? Link?

I also bought a bunch of these on Ebay and have been super impressed. dont know who they sell them that cheap.

pstorti 01-04-2013 03:23 PM

i get mine on amazon, lights and music controllers, the lights only last me a year getting exposed to salt and hosed down every week but the controller still works fine. They are so cheap it easy just to replace them once a year.

Nightlife1970 01-04-2013 03:29 PM

Ok I found the control that was talked about on OSO before. This company has several differnt controls.

http://www.oznium.com/led-controllers

Also looking at the ones on Ebay to see if any of them will do what I want to do. But I am looking for a control that will be pretty programable.If you just want one to flash the lights to the music I think several of the ones on Ebay will do the trick.

This is the thread where these controls were talked about before.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ntrollers.html

Just trying to get all this info in one spot.

pstorti 01-04-2013 09:31 PM

i have the first two that are on the page they both work awesome the lights change colors with the music.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...ic%2Caps%2C192

ICDEDPPL 01-05-2013 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by PremierPOWER (Post 3842376)
How is the quality? I love eBay for certain things but when it comes to anything lighting, a lot of stuff on there is complete junk

The only thing that seems cheaper is the wire connections... I used some dialectic grease and heat shrink over the connections, in stock form seems if they get pulled they will come apart, I secured mine.... we`ll see how they hold up


I take that back the 3M backing is nowhere as good as the more expensive ones. Home Depot and other box stores sell the 3M double sided foam tape, 150' for $15. I used that instead.

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s4/...44542512-4.jpg

pstorti 01-05-2013 02:29 PM

the 3m tape that comes with the light sticks fine, but it seems like it lets the moisture get to the back of the strips, I am going to try the foam tape this time also.


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