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boating37 01-23-2013 07:20 PM

Exhaust systems ?
 
Is CMI the only company to buy an exhaust system from, for big power
Like 800hp and higher?

302Sport 01-23-2013 07:35 PM

Stainless marine gen III, make more power than headers and won't leak. 5 year warranty n their setup.....

http://www.stainlessmarine.com/?wpsc...and-5-ss-pipes

the deep 01-23-2013 07:36 PM

http://www.cpperformance.com/p-13433...collector.aspx

302Sport 01-23-2013 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3854146)

What's their warranty?

the deep 01-23-2013 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3854149)
What's their warranty?

I don't know , just answering the original question . Some research is left up to the buyer .

boating37 01-23-2013 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3854144)
Stainless marine gen III, make more power than headers and won't leak. 5 year warranty n their setup.....

http://www.stainlessmarine.com/?wpsc...and-5-ss-pipes

Someone else said Stainless Marine to me too, how come you don't see them on the Merc 850 1075's or the bigger engines in general?

302Sport 01-23-2013 08:27 PM

I'd think the major reason is that all the new high HP merc stuff comes with CMI and people don't know any different, so when it comes time to replace, they pick the phone up and call CMI. Second reason is they're not as pretty as polished headers. When you weigh the pros and cons it's a no brainier.

Pros: no leaks, longer warranty, make more power, cost less than CMI

Cons: don't look as nice

32hustlin 01-23-2013 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by 302Sport (Post 3854144)
Stainless marine gen III, make more power than headers and won't leak. 5 year warranty n their setup.....

http://www.stainlessmarine.com/?wpsc...and-5-ss-pipes

Do they really make more power over true long tube headers, I'm not knocking you because I'm sold on them. I've just never seen it proven that they out perform headers. I'm ordering two sets to replace some leaky cmi's I have now but was willing to accept a slight performance loss for longevity

the deep 01-23-2013 08:39 PM

Make more power ? I have seen no proof of this other than maybe the Keith Eikert exhaust . There has got to be a reason you don't see SM and similar on big horsepower engines . Someone correct me if i'm wrong .

43sv 01-23-2013 08:51 PM

stainless marine will make more power on blower motors than any tubed header than are larger and flow better. The blower pushes the exhaust out. On N/A motors the stainless header makes a little less power than a tubed header, not a large difference. Have owned both and dynode. I was much happier with Stainless Manifolds

MILD THUNDER 01-23-2013 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3854213)
Make more power ? I have seen no proof of this other than maybe the Keith Eikert exhaust . There has got to be a reason you don't see SM and similar on big horsepower engines . Someone correct me if i'm wrong .

I believe the worlds fastest Vee bottom had SM Gen III's on it when it broke 170mph.

43sv 01-23-2013 08:57 PM

Yes so did the drambue boat the first one

boating37 01-23-2013 09:10 PM

I might have too do a DYNO test between the CMI and Stainless Marine, I spoke to Bruce @ Express racing engines and he said he would do it

the deep 01-23-2013 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by boating37 (Post 3854238)
I might have too do a DYNO test between the CMI and Stainless Marine, I spoke to Bruce @ Express racing engines and he said he would do it

There you go , the proof is in the putin . :daz: I personally would be very interested in seeing the numbers .

baja27 01-24-2013 07:37 AM

Stainless are nice, I have them on my boat, but a tube header will have a nicer crisper sound to them. I also had the KE cast header they sounded great also, the problem with them is if you suck up mud it get trapped in between the water passage cavity and the exhaust port on the top upper bend, which causes them to melt thru!

302Sport 01-24-2013 07:40 AM

Call tommy @ chief, I believe he has done the testing and the stainless marine made more power. A lot of the race boats run stainless marine and that says a lot because they care about making power, and reliability, not how sparkly it is when you open the hatches...

TCBoss302 01-24-2013 07:54 AM

Stellings still has some stuff on their shelves that they will sell you, but they may not have exactly what you need. Let me know if you want to check with them and I'll put you in touch with the right person.

VetteLT193 01-24-2013 08:00 AM

I think the reason why CMI came out with the Big E tops is they were losing business on the reliability side.

SM are a quality product but are butt fugly. I actually find them uglier than the cast iron manifolds. They are a great and reliable product though.

If money is no object for me I'd go CMI E tops. reliable and good looking. Because I'm on a budget I'd end up with Stainless Marine :)

4bus 01-24-2013 08:05 AM

[QUOTE=baja27;3854400]Stainless are nice, I have them on my boat, but a tube header will have a nicer crisper sound to them. QUOTE]


I think people always leave that out when doing the pro/con thing.

A true header boat always turns my head. The raspy sound can not be duplicated by a manifold

302Sport 01-24-2013 08:38 AM

Here's some info regarding power:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/2098777-post22.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/2095269-post12.html

glassdave 01-24-2013 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by baja27 (Post 3854400)
Stainless are nice, I have them on my boat, but a tube header will have a nicer crisper sound to them. I also had the KE cast header they sounded great also, the problem with them is if you suck up mud it get trapped in between the water passage cavity and the exhaust port on the top upper bend, which causes them to melt thru!

I had a boat with a single 600hp 502 and it had KE exhaust, they worked well but to be honest i hated the way it sounded while in the boat, sounded like an old Chevy truck that the muffler fell off. My buddys always told me how great it sounded while going by so i had my friend run the boat while i stayed on his. Sounded friggin awesome lol . . . go figure. :D


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