Stolen domain name
 

Don't have a website,checked into it,some jerk registered nelemsmarine.com hoping to sell it to me.To much trouble to sue him.After 2 years I emailed him yesterday informing him I am the only person in the world with any interest in the name and offered to buy it if it was cheap,otherwwise he could keep paying every year. He told me he had $500 invested,I could have it for that.What has he invested? Maybe $30?

I'd say less than $100 for sure. How bad do you want it, and how will you profit by having it?

Magic, do something like put a hypen between nelems and marine which will make it nelems-marine.com and tell him to eat it. He will quit maintaining it sooner or later. Most likely he's someone in your town or someone who's delt with you.

Just thought that nelemsmarine.com is where most people would go first,that's what I always do when I'm looking for a website. .net is available as are several other variations. I think I'll tell him to forget it.Most people find my boats on boattrader.com anyway.

Actually he is in Atlanta and registered most all Southeastern boat dealers with a .com. that had not done so themselves. Strange way to make a living. I'm going to tell him I'll pass.

Dear Robert:

US internet law is quite clear on this subject. This is not a direct quote: It is illegal for someone to either squat with the intention of sale or use a Dot Com address that is a registered trademark of someone else. Furthermore, it is also illegal to register that which is "assumed" like SeanConnery.com.

IE: The name "Superboat" IS A REGISTERED TRADEMARK OF SUPERBOAT POWERBOATS owned by John Coen - www.SuperboatPowerboats.com. If he wanted to make a stink, he could challange www.superboat.com which is Super Boat International. I know for a fact that the thought has not even entered his mind. I am just using this as an example.

However, if this person resides in a country where there is no reciprocity, they can do whatever the hell they want.

I tried to obtain Linssen.com for either www.LinssenUSA.com or the mother site www.LinssenYachts.com. That domain name is registered to someone in the Far East as I remember. They wanted $3,500 for the name, and there was nothing we could do about it.

If you would like for me to look into this further for you, just E me.

Best regards,
Jennifer

Here's the scoop. This guy is in the US. Let's get him!

Organization:
DOMAIN FOR SALE
Mark Lane
5715 E. Emerald Oaks Dr.
Acworth, GA 30102
US
Phone: 770-975-5769
Email: [email protected]

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: NELEMSMARINE.COM

Created on..............: Mon, Jun 12, 2000
Expires on..............: Thu, Jun 12, 2003
Record last updated on..: Thu, Jun 13, 2002

Administrative Contact:
Mark Lane
Mark Lane
5715 E. Emerald Oaks Dr.
Acworth, GA 30102
US
Phone: 770-975-5769
Email: [email protected]

Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 902-749-2701
Fax..: 902-749-5429
Email: [email protected]

Domain servers in listed order:

DNS21.REGISTER.COM 209.67.50.85
DNS22.REGISTER.COM 209.67.50.86

Looks like he has $100 invested not $500.

Give him $100 or tell him you'll find another way to accomplish the same thing without him.

Magic,

www.nelems.com was available so I just registered it. If you pay me $100 I'll transfer it to you.

Just Kidding!!!:D

It is available so if you want just the name go register it before someone else does!

There's no way this clown has $500 invested. If he's bulk registering domains he can get them for about $8 a year. He's trying to make a profit for all the others he has registered.

If you DO start a site, never let it lapse. The parasites look for lapsed names, put a porn site on it, then offter to sell the name back to you for really big bucks. Know of one offshore race team site that is now a "1-900-we will bill you a lot after we auto-dial your system into ours" site.

-Greg

D head!
I believe you are right in that would be the optimum name however, set your website up under nelems-marine.com. You can set up an email account in 1 day and do a website down the road. Send him an e-mail from "[email protected]" and tell him not to bother your all set with a domain. If he like to cut his losses tell him you will give him .20 on the dollar. Otherwise he can suck it up. When he figures out that he made a bad business decision he will stop paying the registration and the name will be up for grabs again. At that piont you can set it up so that it both names piont to your website and forwards your mail.
To litigate it just brings another A-hole into the mix whom will offer to take $500 of your hands anyhow.

Give him $100 or tell him you'll find another way to accomplish the same thing without him. [/B][/QUOTE]

Accomplish the same thing first, then he's got know rebutle. You also dont want him to think its all that important to you. Make him an offer "because you understand that scumbags like him have to make a living too :D ".

Thanks,everybody. I love this board because I get info on things I know nothing about.Hope I can contribute more on things I know about. I'm going to tell the guy to spend his $8 a year for the rest of his life if he wants to.I really don't need a website,anyone can see our boats on boattrader.com and then e-mail or call me.It just bugs me that some jerk can steal my name and expect me to pay him. Do you suppose he actually makes his living this way? Robert

Tantrum,

Surely you are not referring to me and my bretheren as "another A-hole" to be thrown into the mix, are you?? You hate us until you really need us, then we are your best friend. Hopefully, you will never need such a best friend.

:rolleyes: Gee....is it possible that the reference to "A__hole" was more in reference to the fact that- in order to correct an illegal act by one "a--Hole", that $500.00 or MORE would be required to be paid to correct that illegal act. I don't see a reference to lawyers there. It could have been the DA, filing fees, etc, I would not take that personally Phknlwyr......after all, look at your own moniker here. It is in fun ...... right????:cool:

I know the feeling...:( I had a search come up with a Bimini Top company who's address was www.sharkey.??? What brought up the site was he had titled his page SHARKEY MARINE. So even though he didn't have my domain address, he is probably getting traffic for my site with his page named after my domain name. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: He simply sells tops over the internet via email only. There is no address or phone # on the site. The only way to order is through email.... Can you imagine trying to get canvas that way???? Scary..... As long as no-one thinks it's me, there is not much I will do about it....:mad:

When we first purchased Awesome Powerboats, .com was taken. We went with .net. Set up all our ads, site, business cards and so on. After a year I got a E-mail from a gentelman in Kansas who ofered it to us for the price he paid, He knew I would stick with .net and it was of little value to him and I didn't really care one way or the other. We did buy it and they both are linked.

Good Luck!

Marie
Awesome Powerboats
"http://"awesomepowerboats.net

Sorry you have to go through this trouble. I wish there were something we could do.

If it would help, any offshoreonly member can e-mail me direct to register their domain name for $14.95 per year, which is my cost.

Don't register it from my site because it's set up to charge $29.95.
That's why I say e-mail me direct.

Hope to help.

Phknlwyr,
Nothing personal :D
If you ever need to vent about your local Welding Supply Distributor please dont hold back, I know it can be frustrating
:p


Not that I watch Will & Grace but, (my g/f does)
There was a funny episode were one of the guys was an IRS agent. He was at a party and every time he told someone his profession he got a look and they walked away.

I get the same thing when I tell people Im in the Industrial and Medical gas business :p

Jen and others. I am not sure were you are getting your info from, and maybe it is more up to date then my experience (aprox one year ago) but what I have found out as my name that I wanted for my business (Audio Innovations) is taken. There is nothing that I can do about it but waite. If the person does not use the name in a certain time span (can not remember what it is now) IE actually develope a web site on that name then you can call up Internick and have it removed from them and given to you. However I have been told by a number of Lawers that is totally cool for them to do this. IE Superboat the racing company is totally in the right to have Superboat.com and there is NOTHING at all in the world that John Coen can do about it but have his as he does. As long as Superboat aka SBI keeps their site up and running it is theirs. Just my experience.

Jon

Just checked with my bro and onother computer brain child and they both said you are **** out of luck. Get a new name or pay what he is asking.

Jon

I still think the name is only valuable to you. If he thinks your not interested how long would he possibly through money at it. Register nelems.com and then your covered. When he drops the registration you pick it up. The registration is so inexpensive its worth it just for the e-mail address.

The internet is still a petri dish.

I was discussing this issue with someone last week and they sent me a link to review a case that was just settled last week. It sets precedent and deals with what I was talking about with the Superboat / Super Boat International issue (which by the way everyone, I was just using as an example. John would never ever try to get that domain. He's a gentleman, and John Carbonell was instrumental in helping him obtain the trademark).

Let me look for the link. I forgot who sent it to me.

I'm sorry. My brain is jello today (everyday).

Best regards,
Jennifer

I have a lawyer friend who gives me some free advice as long as I don't ask for too much. He said that the guy in Atlanta has no connection to the name Nelems,he is not connected to the marine industry,there is only one Nelems Marine in the world(me).He even sent me a 20 page letter that he used in a similar case where he demanded damages and the guy backed off.He said the guy doesn't have a leg to stand on legally and I could sue his a## off. Downside is that takes money and time even for a friend to do it. Bottom line is not to do it. If I need the name badly enough offer him a $100 or so,much cheaper than legal action.I don't need it badly,it was just the principle of the thing, but I'll let it go. Anyone that is really wanting a stolen name backbadly enough apparently has the law on their side if theywant to persue it.

But can someone name a Title to a page within their website that is someone else's Domain Name???:confused:

Bob - Can you register "MostPeopleFeelThatMarkLaneIsaJerk.com? Maybe he'll be willing to trade......

I hear ya Jen I know John would NEVER do that :D:D

Anyhow if I had been smart enough to have Coke.com then I could have sold the site to COKE. All I have to do is to put the site up and say that I worship coke and I am all set. There is NOTHING that Coke can do but anti up what ever I want to charge them for it. It is a real tough battle to try and have.

Jon