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Old 02-18-2013, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RollerSkater46
The 1350's have had me captivated and watering at the mouth since they came out, but now this...oh mercury. I just had the old sterlings freshened up...again and the wife was about that...cant imagine if i told her I ordered a set of these
that reminds me of a old friend that every dollar he spent on his boat, he had to match the dollar for jewery purchase for his wife....
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Old 02-19-2013, 06:20 AM
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Is this engine based on a Ford or is it something of there own design?

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Originally Posted by saleen385
Is this engine based on a Ford or is it something of there own design?

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If I'm not mistaken it is 100% new with the exception of maybe something in the turbo. The engine itself is completely new
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Originally Posted by saleen385
Is this engine based on a Ford or is it something of there own design?

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Their own design. Mercury has a long relationship with GM and even built the tooling and did the castings for the 1989 4 valve 350 based on a Lotus design that went in the ZR 1 way back then.

The DOHC V8 the 1100,1350 and 1650 are based on are a 557 cu in block that probably has a lot in common with a BBC such as bore spacing etc. The heads are Mercury's, and the exhaust manifolds are tuned phase so they scavenge. Mercury also got around the parasitic losses of superchargers which were significant also. Very Smart and forward thinking of them.

Mercury probably spent a ton on their development, they realized that valvetrain was the weakpoint on 1200+ HP engines with Pushrods, lifters, and rockers all being failure points when you start talking about the kind of cylinder pressures at that power levels. The valves push back, and things bounce around.

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The 1100,1350,1650 are closed cooled right? Where is the heat exchanger? By the bellhousing somewhere? Seems like they would need a large one.
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1650 Merc... Wow!! Awesome motor...!
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Should make a fantastic ski boat eng!:
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Per the salesaman standing next to the motor: 112 octane, $242K, no warranty
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Per the salesaman standing next to the motor: 112 octane, $242K, no warranty
I can't believe that anyone would pay that kind of money for an engine. I understand they need to recoup the investment in development but that is insane.

How many of these teams can afford $250k per engine?
Is Mercury trying to control the sport or kill the sport?

Even our NASCAR Toyotas are only $125k. The going rate for a NASCAR lease deal is between $3mil & $4.5mil. for 38 races plus testing.

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Originally Posted by saleen385
I can't believe that anyone would pay that kind of money for an engine. I understand they need to recoup the investment in development but that is insane.

How many of these teams can afford $250k per engine?
Is Mercury trying to control the sport or kill the sport?

Even our NASCAR Toyotas are only $125k. The going rate for a NASCAR lease deal is between $3mil & $4.5mil. for 38 races plus testing.

Jim
I imagine Chevy and Toyata's R&D programs are slightly (lol) better funded than Merc, and that's probably the main driver...
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