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Level III Chaos 03-19-2013 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by commandersander (Post 3888604)
In fl, commercial registration costs the same as personal. However, insurance becomes a new game....as in cost goes up.

I have several....and do rent them. However, I boat for free. Test and tune, repair test, rent prep. They all cut into the bottom line, but ultimately...it is a win win. At the end, you net less on your Corp filing but continue to reap the rewards of income from the llc as well lower tax on the Corp. Yes, you then pay on income from the llc, but consider it found money...

Oh....and it's legal.


You are talking charter.....

I believe that the original poster is talking about trying to transfer some of his boating expenses from "personal" to "have my business pay for dat". :) Personally (regarding boats), I keep business just that......business. Do you also have a single checking account for personal and business?

ChargeIt 03-19-2013 08:18 PM

If you dont plan to travel much it may be easier for you to register it in a neighboring state and raise fewer DNR eyebrows than a distant state.
Most state registrations have a usage requirement such as "primarily" used in their state. Some base their annual personal property tax on where it is on January 1 or if it is in the state longer than 3 months for instance.
Out of sight, out of mind is best when dealing with taxes sales and PPT. Private storage instead of public, dont leave it on the lift for long periods if you have a slip.
Find some people willing to help you out but down play your actual strategy when Average Joe asks.

Depending on the tax codes of Ohio, there may be multiple options. All depends on how tax savvy you want to become (or pay someone to be).
If you have that Nortech on the way, I would definately do my homework or pay someone. Initial tax savings alone could be huge, not to mention annual PPT.

These tax planning steps are mostly exclusive to those taking the next step of writing down purchase and operating costs.

Keith Atlanta 03-19-2013 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Tom A. (Post 3888313)
This is sort of on the same subject.

Does anyone own their boat under an LLC to buffer themselves in the event of an insurance or other type of claim?
Some of my friends who race cars have "Such & Such Racing LLC" own the car to help protect their personal assets in the event of an accident. You can show expenses and income through it as well.

If something happens that is bad enough they will come after you personally. An umbrella policy is always good for the last line of defense.

commandersander 03-19-2013 09:06 PM

No, separate accounts....otherwise it is not legitimate. Not talking about charter, bare boat commercial. This simply means I INTEND to rent my vessel(s) to third party non beneficiaries.

As far as umbrella, I have encountered instances with osprey and Lloyds where uscg licensing, and inspection were required. If our humble hero is not a uscg captain, he would need to hire a 3rd party liaison (like me) and put that person on the payroll. 1099 or w2 depending on the arrangement made.

Sydwayz 09-02-2014 08:41 PM

Bringing this up again.

Considering an LLC in Montana to register all of my cars under.
Any other experiences?

Cole2534 09-02-2014 09:19 PM

I just want to see your car collection.

buck183 09-02-2014 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4181962)
Bringing this up again.

Considering an LLC in Montana to register all of my cars under.
Any other experiences?

Enlighten me. Did you throw a dart at a large map of the US and hit that state, or is there something significant about Montana?

Buck

Stuckonstupid 09-02-2014 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by buck183 (Post 4182005)
Enlighten me. Did you throw a dart at a large map of the US and hit that state, or is there something significant about Montana?

Buck

+1, inquiring minds want to know.

tomtbone1993 09-02-2014 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by buck183 (Post 4182005)
Enlighten me. Did you throw a dart at a large map of the US and hit that state, or is there something significant about Montana?

Buck


no sales tax, used to wash titles for export. The department of Homeland Security and all the manufactures have been watching the state pretty close as of late.

tomtbone1993 09-02-2014 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4181962)
Bringing this up again.

Considering an LLC in Montana to register all of my cars under.
Any other experiences?

Just get a dealers license unless you own land in Montana.


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