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Audiofn 07-30-2002 09:25 PM

Ford PSD Updates
 
First off in my desire to know as much as possible about these trucks and not get screwed by the dealer I went on a search for as much as I could find out about the trucks.

I found that there are two simple cheap repairs that can be done to these motors to make them run MUCH better. The first is only a coupld bucks (say 10 or so) It requires replacing your flex hose from the hard line to the fuel pump. I guess the connection pulls air on ALL years.

The next repair is a little more work but not much. It is for Power strokes from 1994 on up. It is made by a company called Diesel Innovations. They make something called a High Pressure Oil Crossover Kit. This kit is shown as 45 bucks and will help the trucks big time. Labor to put in is estimated at a couple hours if you are really taking your time.

As far as my transmision....... They refused to put a new one in. Well they replaced the valve body that they have done before and guess what.... I drove it a couple miles home and this evening it is already messing up. I can not believe how much I pushed for a new transmision. I explained to them what was happening and WHY I WANTED A REBUILT TRANSMISION!!!! I guess it is sad that I know more about these trucks then they do!!!! I think that if I can find a way to afford it I will guy the Tork converter from Sunteck (I think was the name) It has a lifetime warrantee!!!!! Costs 1200 bucks however. Why do I have to spend 1200 bucks to make my truck reliable when it only has 28,000 miles. I am VERY disapointed in how the dealer has handled this particular situation. Over all I am still happy with the truck they just have to figure out the problem with this tranny. Well this time they said they will replace the transmision so they better hold to their word!!!!! I am going to drive it into the ground however so there is no chance for them to renig on their agreement.

Jon

Tinkerer 07-30-2002 10:35 PM

The problem with the fuel line sucking air isn't the line it is the quick connectors. What they do is just cut them out and install rubber fuel line and hose clamps.

MitchStellin 07-30-2002 10:35 PM

You are wise to get a new Torque Converter. They can clean out the valve body even if it was packed with metal (they did mine). Just hope the metal did not take the pump out. This piece alone is the most expensive. Do this now or you will be leff on the side of the road. Good luck and keep fighting the dealer. Take it to a higher level. Local news, Ford cust service, small fire in the back room:eek: all but one of these will work. You decide,I am not giving any advice or acting as your Attorney:D

Tejas Raz 07-30-2002 11:02 PM

Hey thanks for the info Audiofn.

Just bought a 97 F250 HD SuperCab 4x4 PSD last Monday. Sounds like those tips are gimme's and I'm like you... I want to know ALL about them. Just like my boat :rolleyes:

Scott

Intolerant1 07-30-2002 11:46 PM

Go try a different dealer. I had same problem with my 98 F150. Did a trans fluid change just before warranty ran out and found a pile of metal in the pan. Two dealers refused to replace the trans saying that as long as it was operating properly, it was not a problem. This went on for several months and numerous contacts with the dealers and Ford Rep. Finally went to third dealer. Walked into the Service managers office with a plastic baggy full of my trans. Dropped it on his desk and asked for his help explaining that the other dealers apparently no longer wanted my business (new truck every few years). He appologized and ordered my new trans while I waited. It was replaced the next week. Sqeeky wheel gets the grease my friend....raise some hell. Get on the phone with Ford, write nasty letters. etc.

Audiofn 07-30-2002 11:54 PM

Oh believe me this wheel is squeeking so bad it is about to lock up!!!!:mad: :mad: I am going to take it to Danvers Ford next time. I have to call Ford Customer Care to make this all happen as of course the dealer wants me to bring my truck back to them again. They must be on crack the way they treated me the last time!!!! I am going to make a apointment with Danvers Ford tomarrow as they ussually have a couple week waite to get in there!!! So I guess I will waite and get all my ducks in a row and when the time comes I will hopefully be able to limp her into the place. Otherwise it goes on a flat bed!!!!

Jon

candyman35 07-30-2002 11:55 PM

Jon,
Do you know if there were any Trans problems before you bought the vehicle? Have someone run the VIN number for you. If there were you need to demand a new transmission.
Go straight to Ford customer service and state your case. Tell them you would like to bring the truck to a different dealer. Also explain you are towing a 300,000.00 Cig to Loto in a couple of weeks and being stranded would leave Ford open to a very nasty liability suite. You don't need to be playing cards to bluff. ;)
Good luck,
Dan

283CHECK 07-31-2002 09:06 AM

Jon,
From what little you have drove your truck since the fuel line change have you noticed any increase in mpg??

Thanks
Chris

audacity 07-31-2002 09:20 AM

why are you buying a new torque converter???

the fuel line may have done something on my truck...maybe 1mpg???

just replaced 1 of the 4x4 hubs in the front last night!!! what a m-f'er!!!...98k so not that big of a deal. but a pain in the ass!!!!!

euby 07-31-2002 09:26 AM

Re: Ford PSD Updates
 

Originally posted by Audiofn


The next repair is a little more work but not much. It is for Power strokes from 1994 on up. It is made by a company called Diesel Innovations. They make something called a High Pressure Oil Crossover Kit. This kit is shown as 45 bucks and will help the trucks big time. Labor to put in is estimated at a couple hours if you are really taking your time.



Jon

It took me about 20min and was no problem....it might take two hours if your kicking back a few cold ones waiting for the engine to cool off:D

283check....I gained about 2.5mpg after doing these two fixes plus another one which involves dropping the fuel tank and fixing some lines in there that suck air.

Audiofn 07-31-2002 09:47 AM

Audacity: I am getting a new TC because the ones that Ford sells SUCK. Plain and simple they make tons of noise and when they break they take out the whole tranny with them. The ones I have looked at have life time warrantees. Yes I know that only is for the TC HOWEVER it makes me feel good to know that they believe enough in thier TC to give that warrantee. Ford Chevy and Dodge should be assamed with themselves for building and designing such CRAP for transmisions. They have spent so much time making all this HP with the engines and they have totally forgotten about the rest of the drive train. It is a damn shame I should be so concerned about my transmision with this truck. There is not excuse for it and Ford should be ashamed with themselves.

Jon

audacity 07-31-2002 10:06 AM

man...dono what to tell ya...a TC is not a TC if it's locked...as it should be when towing...r u saying the friction material sucks?? or are u blowing blades?? the reactor go'n...agian, not in use when locked...we do break-aways on locked converters that far exceed the engines. i only follow a few rules...i never let the trans down shift on it's own under wot or while towing. i never go past 70% throttle unlocked...and i'm at WOT MOST of the time when locked towing...it now has 98k of a lot of towing....back and forth all of the country towing big boats....

Audiofn 07-31-2002 10:11 AM

TO be honest I am not sure were they go away. From what I have gathered from reading as much as I can over the last few days is that one of the bigest problems is that they things are just to thin and they swell when you get on the throttle. Yes they may be ok for what the engines put out, however the modified ones take over 1500hp and Pound feet of torque!!!! They are not much more then stock as far as money is concerned. Also they do not sound like there are marbles rolling around inside the damn things.

I am still definatly learing about these trucks and I do baby my transmision especially when towing. However if it was properly designed I would be able to mash the throttle every time I get on it :D:D

Jon

Audiofn 07-31-2002 10:12 AM

Oh ya and one more thing. I will be changing to a MUCH larger trans cooler as soon as I get the new tranny. The one that is in there is a total joke.

Jon

Clackster 07-31-2002 10:18 AM

PRO-LOC by Sun Coast Converters 800-868-0053 www.suncoastconverters.com
Comes with shift improver package,top shelf piece!

Wally 07-31-2002 10:22 AM

Jon, just be thankfull all this didnt happen down in LOTO when you guys went down there to pick up the cig!!! You would probably still be down there now!!!

Audiofn 07-31-2002 10:27 AM

Yup those are the ones. I noticed that they still have the 24 month warrantee on the web site however word on the street is that they now are lifetime :D:D

Jon

Audiofn 07-31-2002 10:28 AM

Wally you aint kidding!!!! However I am thinking that the dealers down that way could probably have done a better job then these A-holes.

Jon


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