Gotta Vent "Sorry"
 

I tell you what! Some dealers out there are insane with what they want to give you for trade and what they want for the boats they have!! I have never in my life had such a hard time selling something as i have with this boat! IT seems like boats are selling, but only if you give them away! I cant belive that no one out there wants a great, fun realiable boat. Thats very economical to run and in fantastic shape. I have looked at boats 5 yrs newer and 80k in horriable shape. I have a 99 baja boss 272 454 mag great colors low hrs. I have done a ton of research and everything out there that is similar is more expensive and or in horriable shape. I keep my boat in great shape mechanicaly and physically. Maybe i'm a bit high at 28500, but WTF i see early 90's boats selling for 20k?? What gives...

To all those dealers out there that dont ever bothering answering emails, what goes around comes around! You wont be in bussiness long...

P.S if you list your boat for sale on the internet and some one calls you or emails you for more info and you dont bother to answer them, why even take the time to list your boat???

Have you tried powerboatlistings.com? My buddy is STILL getting calls on his 25' Aggressor that he sold for low 20's. You have yours priced about right. Dealers always seem a bit hit or miss. What are you looking to upgrade to?

Yeah i just put in on there last night.. thanks... something 33-35. Ilike the 33 o/l's 32 AT's 35 Nordics.. soemthing along those lines..

I have been a member here for 10+ years and I have seen a couple patterns. Many people think boats are overpriced when they are buying but underpriced when they are selling. Also, most people want the "great deal" and search until they find it. Only to put another unplanned $3, $4, $8 grand into it shortly after, plus weeks or months of down time. To me, paying a premium price for some peace of mind doesn't bother me. But, I seem to be the minority.

I hear ya....... Buy something with 400 hrs or 750hrs same boat and pay 3k less hmmm which would you buy?? I know which one i would buy.....

Not sure where you're trying to trade in at but in a good chunk of the country the boating season ends around Labor Day and selling a boat is a problem for you or a dealer. What are you expecting a dealer to give you ?

A dealer isn't going to give ya a resale price. I do know how they can or like to try and low ball the hell out of people, but that is the name of their game. I think your asking price is more then fair if your boat is as clean as you say it is. Just have to stick it out untill the right person comes along to buy it. Times are hard for alot of people, alot of banks are not financing boats that are 10 years old. :/

John jr

More than 15k i can tell you that...

point taken on that one!!

Guessing they make a nice chunk on the financing as well and if they can't get someone financing, then they won't make money. Also may be that their bank, the dealerships that is, can't put a boat that old into their floor plan financing program. So, they may well have to put out cash and if their going to do that...... their going to go Pawn Stars on ya.

I'll be lising a 99' 29 Outlaw in the spring so I'll be writing the same rant in April or May of 2014, I'm sure.

I feel your pain, I also have a boat in fantastic shape for the year and my boat has been listed on OSO and powerboatlistings for the last 2 yrs and I either get low balled during a phone call or some dumb @sses who have know clue about the boat. I will probably just have to trade her when I move up next year to make the deal happen and I know that's going to HURT!

Another negative you have is Marinette, Wisc is one long haul to come see and/or pick up a boat for most people. I agree $15K is a low ball offer but what are they reducing the boat you want to purchase by ? or are you looking for a dealer to buy your boat only ?

Boat prices are soft, that's all there is to it. I have seen SMOKING deals on real nice, clean twin engine boats of the 2000-2002 vintage for what you would think a single would sell for. I have also seen guys asking 32,500 for 2000 Baja 272's and they will probably still have it for sale next year. There are LOW hour boats out there for sale (125-200 hours) of your vintage and if yours has 400 hours they will get the call first. List your boat on E-bay asap (season is heading to a end very soon) and set your reserve where you want it and list your phone number in the ad, after the auction is over, you may get a call with a offer . I know several people who have sold boats this way, Smitty

A boat dealership is a buisness. Buisnesses exist to make money. It's in his best interest to by low and sell high. As low and as high as the market can bare. If he is succesfull at figuring out what the market will bare he makes good money and stays in buisness. If he is not good at figuring out the market, eventually he will be working the cheese shredder at Taco Bell. Its that simple. His mission isn't to give you smokin deal, his goal is to pay his mortgage, car payment, insurance, feed his family etc. Giving you a smokin deal is about 358th on his list.

You hit the nail on the head.

I hear your pain. I went through a divorce four years ago and had to sell the boat and house as a result. The amount of money I had in both vs. what I sold them for was flat out depressing. We're in a financial depression. I must say though the boat dealer and house realtor both guided me with what the market would pay for each. Without them they would both still be for sale. The good news is if you're buying another that seller will be forced to give you a smoking deal as well.

Don't get me started on this... Last summer I fell in love with a 42 fountain, was having lunch at the Marina where it was for sale. Made an appt. with sales to come back to lake on Tuesday to look at it as the salesman I knew wasn't in. After getting all the money sorted at my bank, I got there and the boat wasn't in water to test. We chatted for a bit and I got the feeling he thought I was wasting his time,( a good salesman would have had this in the water to test drive).Made another appt. to come back Friday. This time I went in my boat but he was too busy messing with a band that was playing to give me the time of day, other than saying "Yeah, your boat is worth 25" (Fountain still wasn't in water). When I left there this time, I was too pissed to ever consider a boat from Uglys again. A year later, he still has the Fountain, and I still have mine, that is paid for.

And the kicker is that the 42'er probably depreciated ten times more than your ride in a year
Big $ boats take a big hit every year. It probably lost more $ in a year than he offered u for your for your trade.

I would meet someone if they were serious.. I was looking to trade and purchase a new boat.. They are not willing to move off the price they have listed This is why i'm getting so frustrated..

A friend decided to sell his boat to a dealer just to get out of it for many reasons. He finally took 14k and had to add 1k to pay the loan off. This is the end of April this year. We checked the dealers inventory frequently the boat shows up the end of May for 29k. They are in the business to make money.

I looked at trading my boat in to get something with more power vs repowering it & talked with Pier 57 as they are buying boats. I believe they were pretty up front to tell me what they would give & why the amount they decided on. I realize they are in business to make money but some dealers want to make a killing on every sale. I didn't feel that from them but decided to repower because I own the boat & am familiar with it's little quirks. Had I decided to trade they would have been a serious contender for my business. Performance Marine @ LOTO would have been there also. Randy BTW I sold a 99 Baja H2X a few yrs ago for23,000 so I don't think the OPs price is out of range.

Make a deal with Richard Rawlings, he will have his guys put airbags and big rims on the trailer, Asianize the interior and make a few grand you can split.... :party-smiley-004:

call jerry at grand sport center in morris,il,he sells on consignment and moves a lot of boats and he knows what they are worth,if it does not work for you it only cost you a phone call.

I'm confused. Are you trying to sell your boat or have a dealer take? I looked for a '99 272 in the OSO classifieds and none are for sale.. You just listed it in Powerboatlistings.com yesterday. How many dealers have you gone to?

People say "A boat is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.." In today's market, it's more like: "A boat is worth what someone can finance it for..." AND a 15 year old Baja is low on that list. It is what it is man.

There are a hundred boat listing sites. Many are free. Here's a great start: http://bajaboatowners.com/forum.php

Going to a dealer with a 15 year old boat, while EASY, is a poor business model - one that will not give you the return YOU DESERVE. Selling a boat - getting your money back - takes work.

I had it on here most of the summer.. Just moved it to power boat listings recently..Been to half dozen dealers or so... hawkeye and GSC were the most reasonable so far... but we just couldn't come to a deal on what they had... I'm trying to sell outright or trade in at a dealer if they have something I want..
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/23575

Quick nada search on a 99 baja 272 nets the boats value at $17-20000. Most people will not pay more than nada for a boat. Never get financed for more. Might be able to add a few options and raise it to $22-23000 but it most likely will not sell $8-10000 above nada. Same with a guy who posted in formula section. Gotta price according to value especially when financing is involved.

We never got to money, he couldn't be bothered.. But now, the same boat is 25 cheaper, about what I would have wanted out of mine... At the end of the day, he did me a favor, paid for 27 or financed 42... No one has more fun at the lake than I do!! LOL!