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1 MAIDEN AMERICA 09-11-2013 07:08 PM

How much should I charge, what's it worth?
 
Someone want's to rent me and my boat to do some equipment testing. They want me to run around at 50-80mph for a few hours.
It's a 4 hour trailer each way to the test location.
It's in October, in the St of Juan de Fuca, when the weather can be rough, and crap's in the water.

The easy part is they pay for fuel and the extra day of insurance, probably around $800-1000
Me...I'm cheap, wife says so all the time!
How about wear and tear on the boat?
And coincidental damages like a bent prop? or worse?

Anybody ever dealt with something like this?

ratman 09-11-2013 07:25 PM

chit dude i take people out for free all the time... id be happy if they paid gas money and time for the tow... time in the boat is free fun time on their nickel...rm

mikebrls 09-11-2013 08:07 PM

1. at minimum have them pay you for your 8 hour's of driving . how much do you make working for 8 hour's ?

also cruising at 80 mph will put some wear and tear on your motor's and drive's especially with a few hour's of run time .

2. $ 2000. plus anything that break's while underway

so I would ask for 1. and 2.


BE CAREFUL the way you wright this down in any contract unless you are a licensed captain

pstorti 09-11-2013 08:20 PM

who is it and why are they doing it, what is your exposure, what is your time worth, how much will they pay. I would get as much as you can unless there is some reason you need to do it for them at just the cost of fuel. Yours it not an inexpensive boat and it should not be cheap to hire, also be careful you have insurance your regular policy most likely won't cover anything that can be construed as commercial, also if you are taking any passengers in a for hire situation you may need a licensed captain. If you break something who pays??

Not saying don't do it, I would probably do it also any excuse to get out on the water is a good one, just don't get into a situation that causes you problems.

MrOffshore 09-11-2013 08:35 PM

I'd pass...if anything goes wrong, you're likely not covered by your insurance. I guess it all depends on what your worth and willing to risk. You said you're a self-proclaimed "cheap" person...is it worth the risk of not being insured because you're basically "for hire"...your liability will likely go beyond that. You might be able to get around some of this with a donation, but any good attorney will bust through that...especially with this all documented on a forum.

Sunny32SSR 09-11-2013 08:53 PM

The ride to Vancouver is worth at least 4k. If they balk at that tell then to ride the coho. Nothing a round bottom ferry can't fix if they don't think it's worth it.

FIXX 09-11-2013 09:11 PM

and you want the money up front!

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 09-12-2013 03:02 PM

My insurance carrier is informed about this and checking it out for me.
I was thinking $3K + damages or deductible, but $5K sounds sweet.
If anyone's ever rented a boat to a studio for the day or something, what'd you get?

Crude Intentions 09-12-2013 03:16 PM

I am a 100 ton master nearing my 500/3000. If you need a captain I will make my services available to run the CHIT out of your fountain!! Lol :boat:

Hope it works out. Let us know how it goes

ICDEDPPL 09-12-2013 03:24 PM

To rent some crappy little boat in Florida its a few hundred $$$ for 4 hours and that doesn`t include gas.. wear and tear on boat, trailer and tow vehicle and your time? I`d want a $1000 plus gas minimum.

Level III Chaos 09-12-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1 MAIDEN AMERICA (Post 3993583)
My insurance carrier is informed about this and checking it out for me.
I was thinking $3K + damages or deductible, but $5K sounds sweet.
If anyone's ever rented a boat to a studio for the day or something, what'd you get?


Chevy was doing a photoshoot for their marketing years ago and wanted a boat to take a picture with the truck. A friend of mine contacted me about it, we figured out the deal and had another friend take it to the location for the shoot. It was only on the trailer and was back the same afternoon. I think it was something like $2500 for the day. I took $1000 and I gave him $1500. It might have been more but that was at least 9 years ago.

smokin' gun 09-12-2013 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by 1 MAIDEN AMERICA (Post 3993583)
My insurance carrier is informed about this and checking it out for me.
I was thinking $3K + damages or deductible, but $5K sounds sweet.
If anyone's ever rented a boat to a studio for the day or something, what'd you get?

Rented my 38 top gun to the movies in Boston.the series { Louis ck } they offered me
$8000 with a driver for 7 hrs and would pay for any damage. actual run on the
Boat was roughly 2 hrs . Most was spent setting up cameras ect

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 09-12-2013 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by smokin' gun (Post 3993599)
Rented my 38 top to the movies in Boston. Louis ck they offered me
$8000 with a driver for 7 hrs and would pay for any damage. actual run on the
Boat was roughly 2 hrs . Most was spent setting up cameras ect

Sounds good. What movie?

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 09-12-2013 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Level III Chaos (Post 3993598)
Chevy was doing a photoshoot for their marketing years ago and wanted a boat to take a picture with the truck. A friend of mine contacted me about it, we figured out the deal and had another friend take it to the location for the shoot. It was only on the trailer and was back the same afternoon. I think it was something like $2500 for the day. I took $1000 and I gave him $1500. It might have been more but that was at least 9 years ago.

$5K sounds good. Hope my insurance is game.

commandersander 09-12-2013 04:56 PM

#1. Your carrier can provide you with a ryder for the period of time they intend to use the boat (bare boat coverage)
#2. It is a felony to operate a vessel for hire without a TWIC and minimum O.U.P.V. Plus, your boat can be confiscated. This is federal, not state or local. There is absolutely NO way around that.
#3. I offer my services to my clients at 100 per hour on water, 65 driving or waiting (sleep away from home) and 150 after dark.

Always, additional ins premiums.....fuel......pre-and post cleaning.....incidental and actual damage as well as a deposit equal to my deductible.

As far as your situation....

Consider the value of your boat and it's expected life. Divide cost by life (in hours) and use that unit of measure to multiply their indebtedness to you along with the "you" fees.

tbirdusa 09-12-2013 08:42 PM

Are they planning a hit and need to make it out to international waters to drop off a "package".... Did they ask if there was room in the cuddy for about 60 2 kilo errr...... shoebox size boxes?

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 09-13-2013 06:37 AM

Yes. Why? They said it's "test" equipment. lol

hogie roll 09-13-2013 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by smokin' gun (Post 3993599)
Rented my 38 top gun to the movies in Boston.the series { Louis ck } they offered me
$8000 with a driver for 7 hrs and would pay for any damage. actual run on the
Boat was roughly 2 hrs . Most was spent setting up cameras ect

How'd I miss this one? Which episode?

Tom A. 09-13-2013 09:16 AM

My boat was in the Geico Christopher Columbus ad (Pinta). I got paid $5000 plus fuel for the day. The boat was run by a top notch driver with decades of experience. I was also told they would pay for any damage incurred. We also spent the day watching them film the commercial.

It was a good deal right.... well, the following week, I launched the boat (first time after the shoot) and as soon as I put it in gear, the port drive went boom. Blew the lower. Then I had shifting issues with the other... Ended up doing both lowers and new cables (cost $5000+). Top it all off with a tax form that I had to pay taxes on the $5k!

Moral of the story, it costs a lot of money to run and maintain these boats, don't be afraid to ask for a solid price to cover your assets.

Would I do it again, probably not..... unless I got a lot more money!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raPLzhzxAeU

Crossett 09-27-2013 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by korvetkeith (Post 3995116)
How'd I miss this one? Which episode?

The one with the top gun was season 3, episode 8 "Dad"

http://traviscrossett.com/louieTG.JPG


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