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KRAUSMOTORSPORTS 09-17-2013 10:36 AM

Awesome! Just awesome! You must have the same ignition box in your boat as I do in my car! ;-)

2FastWarlock 09-17-2013 10:36 AM

i have to agree with Randy and Johnny on this one, Ive been around racing for 19 years and raced for the past 8/9 years now. I drove for the first 4 of them while my dad was throttling and since he retired I started throttling. Haivng control of the attitude of the boat and speed in all different conditions and situations is invaluable to me. There are very few people who i would let throttle my boat with me driving. But having an understanding of both positions and the potential for danger with the slightest of mistakes by either position is critical.

CIG3 09-17-2013 02:11 PM

I've driven and throttled many differant boats in the last 20 years. I feel much more confortable throttling than driving. Believe it or not some of the smaller fast "v"s are probably harder the drive and throttle than the big cats and "V's. I bet if you put a guy in a SVL driving and throttling, he would be no match for a good 2 man crew. I've driven for guys that know how to throttle and guys that don't. Andy I've throttles for guys that were great drivers and not so great. I could make a not so great driver look alot better than he really was once I got a feel for his style. If your are not in sync then your doomed either way.

TYPHOON 09-17-2013 02:22 PM

Just from my experience in a SVL and F1 boats I can tell you that just trying to pull the lap tape in big water is a hard task in itself LOL. Letting go for that one second to grab the tape is sometimes nerve racking. I only wish more people could experience just one lap of a race at speed. You will either $hit your pants and say I loved it or never ever want to do it again.

TeamSaris 09-17-2013 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 3997478)
Just from my experience in a SVL and F1 boats I can tell you that just trying to pull the lap tape in big water is a hard task in itself LOL. Letting go for that one second to grab the tape is sometimes nerve racking. I only wish more people could experience just one lap of a race at speed. You will either $hit your pants and say I loved it or never ever want to do it again.

Another great point...nobody knows how hard you run in racing until you actually do it. Everyone sure does think they do though lol...myself included in that...boy i was naive!

TeamSaris 09-17-2013 07:00 PM

This was a good two man day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yr1Z_F4tcc

dykstra 09-17-2013 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 3997632)
This was a good two man day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yr1Z_F4tcc

Awesome video. I could listen to that all day long!!! Sounds fantastic!!

SummerObsession 09-17-2013 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 3997632)
This was a good two man day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yr1Z_F4tcc


Damn that hurt my kidneys just WATCHING that!
Well done!

TeamSaris 09-17-2013 10:06 PM

Thanks Guys! Few pics from that race...really gotta focus on the first one...were quite a ways up

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...612463_n-1.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...94598492_n.jpg

314joey 09-18-2013 07:44 AM

Team Saris, got any vid of you guys in the cockpit, that would be cool to see.

MissGeicoRacing 09-18-2013 08:18 AM

I have been racing for 15 yrs, I drove and throttled my Jersey Skiff and thats the only way that setup works because you stab it to the floor and hold on. For the next six years I drove and throttled my Pantera and was successful but I attribute my two accidents on having only one hand on the wheel. I also drove an F1 Warlock for two years and had to drive my ass off and couldn't imagine doing it with one hand. Having throttled a turbine for 5 years and now a turbo charged boat, I just don't see how I could control the throttling with the precision it takes with a foot throttle, especially in rough seas. My feet are flying all over in the boat in the rough and 1/4 of an inch of movement with the fly by wire setup is 20mph

Interceptor 09-18-2013 09:45 AM

Are you guys talking to each other much during a race ? or is it more of a understanding of what each other will do in various situations ?
ed

MissGeicoRacing 09-18-2013 10:01 AM

Not much anymore, just in traffic

LubeJobs42 09-18-2013 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 3997965)
Are you guys talking to each other much during a race ? or is it more of a understanding of what each other will do in various situations ?
ed

Mostly a lot of cursing and swearing in my boat!

TeamSaris 09-18-2013 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by 314joey (Post 3997908)
Team Saris, got any vid of you guys in the cockpit, that would be cool to see.

Yes but it was a clam day....but even on a calm day, look at all the driving it takes to keep a step bottom vee pointing where you want it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsYOCqE57Y


Interceptor we dont even use an intercom, just some hand signals

Sydwayz 09-18-2013 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 3998099)
Mostly a lot of cursing and swearing in my boat!

"You scratched my &$%*ing anchor!"

314joey 09-18-2013 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 3998188)
Yes but it was a clam day....but even on a calm day, look at all the driving it takes to keep a step bottom vee pointing where you want it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsYOCqE57Y


Interceptor we dont even use an intercom, just some hand signals

Calm, I hate to see rough then, thanks, stay safe.

Too Stroked 09-18-2013 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 3998188)
Yes but it was a clam day....but even on a calm day, look at all the driving it takes to keep a step bottom vee pointing where you want it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsYOCqE57Y


Interceptor we dont even use an intercom, just some hand signals

The other thing some of you may notice is Johnny's dad - veteran throttleman that he is - using an old technique to further smooth out the throttle application. Notice the position of his right hand on the throttles. He grips them at the base so his forearm is steadied by the center arm rest. If you try to throttle using the knobs at the end of the sticks, it leads to very choppy application.

See Johnny, this old guy has learned a few tricks over the years and doesn't miss much. Wait, where's my teeth?

Interceptor 09-18-2013 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 3998188)
Yes but it was a clam day....but even on a calm day, look at all the driving it takes to keep a step bottom vee pointing where you want it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsYOCqE57Y


Interceptor we dont even use an intercom, just some hand signals

Hand signals make sense.

Wahoo ATV 09-19-2013 10:15 AM

Personally I believe that it would be impossible to beat a good two man team in a smooth water race. Racing my 38' 525 Fountain required perfect timing between the tabs, drives, and throttles to execute a perfect high speed turn. In the rough water, there are tons of areas on the course to make or lose time, not in the smooth


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