Bravo 1, Hydromotive, or revolution 4
Hey guys I have a 1992 24 Outlaw that I am dropping a gen 6 502 with 530-550hp into, has a bravo 1 drive. I have looked into these 3 props as from what I am reading and information I have gathered these would be the ones to choose from.
Information I have been told. Bravo 1 - To work the best would need to be labbed finished, being labbed correctly would give a little more bow lift then out of the box, and will probably give me the best performance all around. Was told the only downfall of a labbed prop is i MAY lose a little mid range, he stressed MAY. Hydromotive - A Quad 4 cut down to 14 3/4 diameter would boost all range performance, however doesn't give too much bow lift that the Outlaw's typically like. But with th horsepower numbers I may not need the prop to do that, as the motor has enough power to get the boat out of the water. Revolution 4 - Good 4 blade for the outlaws out of the box because they are cut to give more bow lift then say the bravo 1 or hydromotive out of the box. Was told they perform very well as a non labbed finished option. So basically if I don't want to alter a prop, and just want an out of the box prop that works well this one is the ticket. I am probably looking at a 24 or 25 pitch to work best with my application. Has anyone ran these props, if so what were your experiences, and what was the set up they were on? Any other input would be great as well |
mirage plus..
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I had a 92' Outlaw with an HP500. I ended up spinning the Hydro 4 blade 24 pitch. (non labbed) Best overall performance for my set up. I tried all the props you mentioned. Boat was a little more stable with the Bravo 4 blade but I was not getting the top end speed. Hydromotive ran 74mph at 5200rpm all day.
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Engine power has nothing to do with the boats attitude in the water. Your drive is deep (if stock) and will run best with a labbed Mirage Plus 3 blade. The only way to run with less wetted surface is to carry the bow (lots of cup in the prop). None of the four blades will carry the bow on your boat like the "double cupped" M+. We just ran this experiment last month. I sent my prop to a friend in Ky with an "identical" boat and power. He gained 7 MPH running my labbed M+ vs his stock M+, and couldn't believe the mid range punch and how much different it ran ie lots of bow lift.
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Ditto on Mirage Plus. The Revolution was not around when I owned a 24' Outlaw but the Mirage Plus tested better then the Bravo and Hydro.
Hook'em - who labbed your Mirage Plus? |
It's a freak hybrid (houston propeller). Bblades did the work. It actually just got back home yesterday from Bblades. My buddy sent it back to Brett so he could map it and reproduce it for him. One of the biggest "adjustments" in addition to rake, cup and pitch is diameter. Mine is cut down 5/8 of an inch to 14.
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Originally Posted by Hook'em
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Engine power has nothing to do with the boats attitude in the water. Your drive is deep (if stock) and will run best with a labbed Mirage Plus 3 blade. The only way to run with less wetted surface is to carry the bow (lots of cup in the prop). None of the four blades will carry the bow on your boat like the "double cupped" M+. We just ran this experiment last month. I sent my prop to a friend in Ky with an "identical" boat and power. He gained 7 MPH running my labbed M+ vs his stock M+, and couldn't believe the mid range punch and how much different it ran ie lots of bow lift.
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Originally Posted by Sabres Fan
(Post 4020399)
I had a 92' Outlaw with an HP500. I ended up spinning the Hydro 4 blade 24 pitch. (non labbed) Best overall performance for my set up. I tried all the props you mentioned. Boat was a little more stable with the Bravo 4 blade but I was not getting the top end speed. Hydromotive ran 74mph at 5200rpm all day.
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Originally Posted by ealesh33
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I would have to argue that engine power has something to do with it. Every prop guy I have talked to definitely introduced many things on one prop vs the other, but they all said a 4 blade would give the best all around performance.. I am not concerned with top end as long as I am not losing more then a couple mph up top. I may run my boat wide open once or twice on a day trip. A 4 blade typically gives you better hole shot, and mid range along with better fuel mileage. Lots of bow lift makes for a less desirable ride as well, as the boat bounces more. I would rather keep the bow more under control then go a few mph faster. I am more interested in cruising at 50mph then running top end at 76mph vs. 73mph. That is very impressive to gain 7mph with just labbing a prop. Also why can't you just cup a 4 blade to gain more bow lift?
You can cup a 4 blade for bow lift, but when it's trying to lift the stern to begin with, the results aren't the same. Mine isn't just about WOT either. I hardly ever run WFO. But it will out perform a 4 blade in every catigory you listed AFTER the lab job. My slip number WFO is less than 12%. Throttle response is awesome all the way thru. It's hard to have this discussion online, everyone has their own experience. I've been running this boat for 13 years and had "a few" props on her LMAO. Edit: BTW carrying the bow doesn't make the boat ride chitty or porpoise if you know how to trim properly FWIW. |
Originally Posted by Hook'em
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It's ok, we can disagree. HP definately has plenty to do with how you prop a boat. But it has nothing to do with how the boat runs in the water. OP's comment was he "wasn't so worried about......because of the HP he's got." That's the basis for my comment.
You can cup a 4 blade for bow lift, but when it's trying to lift the stern to begin with, the results aren't the same. Mine isn't just about WOT either. I hardly ever run WFO. But it will out perform a 4 blade in every catigory you listed AFTER the lab job. My slip number WFO is less than 12%. Throttle response is awesome all the way thru. It's hard to have this discussion online, everyone has their own experience. I've been running this boat for 13 years and had "a few" props on her LMAO. |
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