outboard desicion : johnson or mercury?
 

pleasure boat. performance is not important as fuel consuption and engine-life
around 250 hp

which one would you choose?

a)johnson (omc)
b)mercury

That's a no brainer!
 

Mercury only! Easy to get parts and service for one thing.

Since OMC went bankrupt for get about parts and service.

Beside that, just look and see what's racing!

mercury promax's.a friend has 600 hrs on 225 promax's on a velocity,never been wrenched except for spark plugs

himm.
the only problem about mercury ,is mercury service!!
real a**hole*!







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i have heard johnson are SUPER heavy. re-inforce your transom heavy......

I believe Bombardier now manufactures the OMC brand of outboards (Evinrude and Johnson). I would hope that their dealers were getting some training or staff to handle the influx of outboards. Personally, the only reason to own a Johnson is so you can say, "Hey, I've got a Big Johnson." Otherwise I'd be looking for a Mercury. I have a 1972 Merc 50 hp that has never had to have ANY work other than plugs and two impellers in it's ENTIRE life. And like someone said above, the new Promax motors are seamingly bullitproof. Know several guys running them without incident for many hours.

what do you think about yamaha?
they are also very strong

Yamaha doesn't do any HP stuff. Merc is where it's at for new power. If you were looking for something older to build up, then I'd suggest looking at the 4.0 OMC V-8's.

I need new engines.two of them for a friend.

as I told at the begining,performance +weight is not very important. comsumption and long engine life is more important

definetley Merc. If you dont care about real power Yamaha 250 saltwaters are pretty good. I have twin Yamaha saltwater series 225's on my stamas fishing boat. Didnt care about speed, just reliability. From what ive heared the 225 yamahas are better than the 250's, thats why i chose the 225's nothing to do with price.

-hope this helps you
-PANTERA LOVER

My next door neighbor at the cottage runs 2 yamaha 250's on a 31 foot stinger.they have been very reliable but only push the boat to 56 mph:(

Merc rules if you want power. Always has. Johnson and Evinrudes are top quality today to, no problem with parts or service. Bombardier has really improved the product. But Merc still rules and they have a high performance department just for outboards.

merc all the way ive had 6 mercs 1 johnson naver agin i've got a 1956 merc 40 hp neaver been a part runs as good as my new 90 hp merc yamaha is allright i gess a frend does all the rebulding of power heads on the coast of nc they all come to him but on johnsons you replace the block hyda tec in nixa mo is the yamaha hp expert but he is allso hops up merc

he said johnson, hehehaha:D

i am a yamaha mechanic.. so i might be a little prtial here but the yamaha is definetly the best...they just dont break.. usually customer error when they do.. yamaha also stands behind their products too.. just had a customer take out a power head on a sport boat that he admits to running WFO 90% of the time and has close to 1000 hrs on it ..it was 3 months out of warr and yamaha gave him a complete new slong block and all the labor to fix. only cost him for the haul and a few other incidentals.. i would also say that if i had to make the choice between mer or omc i would definetly choose merc.. just make sure you have a very competent shop rig it.. have heard some local horror stories about poor quality rigging causing much grief for people.. sorry so long post .. any yamaha questions feel free to ask...

Forget anything that used to be OMC and go from there!
 

I wouldn't even consider Johnson or Eninrude. I've worked on a few and hated em.
The first and obvious choice would be Mercury. On the other hand, I have to agree with much of what Fever Mike and George just said. The Yamaha has earned a great reputation among the bass boaters and tournement fishermen around these parts, (and folks around here take their bass fishin seriously!) So I too would look hard at the Yamaha. Plus, if I remember right, the Yamaha comes standard with some basic goodies, such as a stainless prop, where all the other brands are "no prop included". Those little "goodies" add up.
Let us all know what you decide on and why. Also, please let us know some performance numbers when it runs.

I like Mercs
I like Yamahas

If speed was a concern, I would go with a Merc.
Otherwise, I would go with whichever had the best and friendliest dealer in your area.

How much did puder charge you to type this for you.

Good one Bowtie !! :D :D :D :D

Re: outboard desicion : johnson or mercury?
 

I personally run Merc EFI Offshores.

But if you aren't looking for the Mercury top end performance and are looking @ fuel consumption, then let me suggest the Bombardier FICHT 25O.

My biggest trouble for having the family out with the Mercs is the SMOKE!!!

Bombardier seems to run smokeless and are so much quieter.

Here is a LINK if your interested...WWW.NJOUTBOARDS.COM

I don't know anything about outboards, but have you looked at Honda's, I see they have a 225HP 4-Stroke. Anyone know anything about these? I wonder how a 28' Skater would run with a pair of Honda's on the back, you wouldn't have to worry about noise restrictions.

Kirk

thnx for all replies.

KN : these are not for me ,for a friend .will use them on a boston-whaler-type boat.

as I understood no one likes omc's 2 much.but however they have the best service in my country.very well organised with a price list ,all necessary special tools ,computers etc.

Mercury is the weakest one.they dont have anything.hand made special tools-no computer-individual price lists(lol) .plus you have to wait for spare parts.

yamaha: this is also amazing story .believe it or not but I still have small outboard from 70's .it still works!! no service -no nothing-regular gas-felt down many times-went underwater.....
unbelieveable things happened to that engine but still working.if the bigger engines are like this ,it would be perfect...

so the final idea I get from this tread is:
if weight and speed is not important as long-engine life : yamaha is what I am looking for.
but will check their service before the order

thank you all for sharing your ideas and your help

I had a 1988 Johnson on my center console for 13 years with no problems other than a tilt motor rusting thru. It was still running fine when I bought a new Johnson last year, I just wanted more power as the original was a 120 and it was underpowered for the boat, therefore had to work harder all the time and still held up. I looked at all of them, and the Johnson was around 2K less than a comparable Mercury. I don't know how hard they are to work on since I never had to for 13 years. Believe it or not, I never even changed the water impeller.

I have to agree with the merc boys on this one. parts are everywhere and they hold up great in all conditions.

Being that it has come up. There are many Aftermarket Parts companies out there. So no matter which outboard you choose, I feel you should be able to get the parts....;) WWW.NJOUTBOARDS.COM

Did I mention that Evinrude & Johnson now carry the best warranty in the industry??? 3 years on everything. No Decline Warranty.:eek: :eek: :eek:

if your interested,I have access to left over and new yamahas at a tremendous savings,a company that has over 300 in stock....full warrenty....below dealer cost or right at it.....you just have to keep yamahas cleaninside and out,lack of maintenence causes severe corrosion and after many years,the bolts like to break.....I prefer mercury but these yamahas can be had at a steal deal.....813-247-3049,813-625-0831 ask for AL

For the website of Hydro-Tec, the Yamaha high performance and rebuild center in the US --

www.hydrotecmarine.com

They've got lots of Yamaha goodies. ;)
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Hydro Tec Marine Performance / 865 W. Enterprise Lane / Nixa, MO. 65714 --- Phone (417)725-5746
[email protected]


also - here's the BMC (Bombarier Motor Corp) website for Johnson Motors:

http://www.johnson.com/