drive showers?
Yay or nah?
Looking for small things to do while it is cold in FL. Boat really needs little to nothing as I didn't really use it much since i got it. Re-wire the stereo and add some underwater LED is all I got so far. However the boat did not come with drive showers. Is this something I should add and if so why? It's a 2004 Sonic 358 with Mag 496ho's. I have zero plans to mod or add any power to this current set up. |
Been lots of threads over the years on this topic with strong opinions for and against. I'm on the for side. I prefer Simrek. I know they work as I wakeboarded with a short rope behind my boat after installing to make sure it indeed was pouring water over my drive!
www.driveshowers.com |
Originally Posted by Nate5.0
(Post 4066195)
Is this something I should add and if so why?
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Shinny and black... No white chalk at all.
This was taken last Thursday http://i59.tinypic.com/2iawh9u.jpg |
Originally Posted by Nate5.0
(Post 4066209)
Shinny and black... No white chalk at all.
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Originally Posted by Crossett
(Post 4066212)
That's a sign that they aren't getting too hot. Showers won't hurt anything though, and they're relatively cheap.
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Originally Posted by Nate5.0
(Post 4066214)
The low cost and ease to install is why I brought it up. I see many with them and get the basic idea of them.... Just didn't know if there was a reason I should leave them off my boat seeing as it is prob the only thing this boat does not have.
It's cheap insurance for when the water temp goes WAY UP here in the summer, I've had them on all of our boats, and the SIMREKs are the best in my opinion. Take care, Dean |
Originally Posted by Dean Ferry
(Post 4066237)
Nate,
It's cheap insurance for when the water temp goes WAY UP here in the summer, I've had them on all of our boats, and the SIMREKs are the best in my opinion. Take care, Dean That part makes sense with our water temp. I have yet to have this boat in it but prior ones I know the gulf gets warm and honestly I never put the 2 and 2 together |
+1 for the Simreks. And they are easy to install, no holes to drill. Only takes 10 minutes to install.
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x2 on the Simreks. Paul is a good guy to deal with also. They work well.
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I have heard that they can rob a little top end. I do not have one on my 525/XR/imco shorty
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4066728)
I have heard that they can rob a little top end. I do not have one on my 525/XR/imco shorty
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Originally Posted by Nate5.0
(Post 4066731)
That is fine. I am not a top end whore and my boat is not ran all out that often at all.
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I have the Simreks and they are great. But, it's not as easy an install with external hydraulic steering. You'll have to grind off a part of the mounting ring to make it fit over the steering connection on the top of the drive. I'd recommend the Simrek though, simple design but very effective.
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4066728)
I have heard that they can rob a little top end. I do not have one on my 525/XR/imco shorty
So last summer I tested it. Friday after work went out. 55 MPH, on gps..(same as it always been) Removed drive shower, and skeg guard Saturday morning, went back and guess what......... 55 MPH on gps (plus I was probably a little lighter since I didnt re fuel). This was my findings, first hand, real world testing. |
Originally Posted by Indy
(Post 4066737)
That was my feeling. I could care less if it scrubbed a tiny bit off the top end, my boats have never been the fastest in the bunch, nor did I ever give a hoot either.
Get there at s good and fun speed and riding nice and pretty. |
Originally Posted by CrownHawg
(Post 4066738)
I have the Simreks and they are great. But, it's not as easy an install with external hydraulic steering. You'll have to grind off a part of the mounting ring to make it fit over the steering connection on the top of the drive. I'd recommend the Simrek though, simple design but very effective.
Thanks everyone! |
Originally Posted by 92nsx
(Post 4066759)
I heard the same thing and was told by fellow OSO'ers that my skeg guard also is robbing me of speed.
So last summer I tested it. Friday after work went out. 55 MPH, on gps..(same as it always been) Removed drive shower, and skeg guard Saturday morning, went back and guess what......... 55 MPH on gps (plus I was probably a little lighter since I didnt re fuel). This was my findings, first hand, real world testing. |
Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4066848)
I like to see real world testing like that. Others have reported losing 2-3 mph from the extra drag. I DO care about top speed. I've also seen conflicting reports of drive oil temp reduction with a shower. I think that a drive oil temp gauge with sender installed near the top would be the acid test.
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Choice one or two on this page:
http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2...e=driveshowers These are a great setup IMHO. |
I put the rex marine in the 1st picture on one boat, although it was a single pickup vs a dual pick up. IMO they are one of the nicest looking showers. I thought they worked good, but IMO if you don't care about appearance I found the Simreks to put more water over the top of the drive. But if you want something that looks great and still does the job the Rex's are the ticket. And I suspect the dual pickups work more effectively than my single pickup.
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I do like that Rex marine one and it looks like there might be no cutting or anything to install with my steering.
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I have 5 newe sets of the Simreks, Let me know if your interested, I'll give you a deal.
Carey Downs Pier 57 TN 731-689-4000 662-4155350 |
I may be interested in a couple of the Simrek set ups as well, PM me a price Cdowns.
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4066848)
I like to see real world testing like that. Others have reported losing 2-3 mph from the extra drag. I DO care about top speed. I've also seen conflicting reports of drive oil temp reduction with a shower. I think that a drive oil temp gauge with sender installed near the top would be the acid test.
That being said I have always run one. Cheap insurance IMO. |
FWIW, I have the Hydro cool II drive shower on my drives. Also we installed same on my friend's bravo 1X drive and tested before and after with temperature sensor installed in the upper oil plug hole. We observed 10* oil temperature drop.Not a lot but better than none with money spent. Best system though is the cool swirl system from Drew Marine albeit lot more expensive! >
http://www.drewmarine.com/products/c...coolswirl.html The hydro Cool II cap encapsulates the bearing cap and water flow down its side where the casting is thinnest, hence better heat dissipation. http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Drive%20shower |
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Drive%20shower
all finished http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/E...ect%20complete Hydro cool II can be supplied from the seawater pump as well >http://www.cfm-tech.com/catalog/hydr...vo_4932091.htm |
Drive showers should be factory standard equipment on any boat IMO.
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Drive showers, speedo pick up, water pick up, skeg guard, can all rob 2-3 mph. IF your boat runs triple digits.
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Originally Posted by GO4BROKE
(Post 4067353)
Drive showers, speedo pick up, water pick up, skeg guard, can all rob 2-3 mph. IF your boat runs triple digits.
Hell my speedo pick up doesn't even work anymore. I should just cut/trim that back. |
If you can keep the outside of the drive from boiling the water away and drying... I am all for it. Nothing looks worse than a ratty looking outdrive.
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Originally Posted by spectras only
(Post 4067239)
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Drive%20shower
all finished Hydro cool II can be supplied from the seawater pump as well >http://www.cfm-tech.com/catalog/hydr...vo_4932091.htm http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps96df7ccf.jpg |
If I'm on trailer trim and my drives get turned the hit my exhaust. I know that my drives should be straight if I'm trimmed that high.... But it happens. Has anyone ever made there own ?
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Originally Posted by mptrimshop
(Post 4069707)
If I'm on trailer trim and my drives get turned the hit my exhaust. I know that my drives should be straight if I'm trimmed that high.... But it happens. Has anyone ever made there own ?
http://teaguecustommarine.com/em0011...pacer-kit.html They are a Mercury part; and dealer can get them. It pop INSIDE of your trim rams and limit the upward travel. I installed them myself. Easy install and not much mess. |
Great topic! I have been researching drive showers lately myself. Seems like everyone has a different option amd preference. I have a 36 Spectre Cat with XR drives and Sport master lowers. I'm looking for the best shower that will still have flow even at high speeds. I've seem some pics and videos that show the pickup tube almost out of the water (not picking up) when on plane and trimmed up past level. Any suggestions?
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