Just gonna get rid of it like that? C'mon Phil. What do you still have to do to get it back together?

The long warranty/lifespan/fuel economy of OB's are also huge pluses.....The insurance can be more expensive in certain areas (triple/quad OB's in S. Florida routinely disappear).

Just because a CC can fit 10 people doesn't mean it is smart to take 10 people on a poker run.

Say we want to go out with 4 couples (including us). The 4 guys go out and run hard/poker run/whatever while girls are getting massages/gossiping/getting ready and then we pick them up and the 8 of us go boating together. With a CC I can do that all with the same boat, with a sport boat I couldn't. With a CC I have room for 4 people to safely run hard and then 8+ people to relax comfortably. I'm not selling any one on a CC but that is one of the many reasons a CC worked for "me" that I hadn't read yet.

One other thing not mentioned is the fact that having a sport boat often is about going fast, especially faster than most others. If you are that guy and don't have cubic dollars you will not be anywhere near the head of the pack. So once you lose that, you are now looking for more utility, so a center console looks real good.

There are even some center console specific poker runs now....

Nail on head.

Simply put.....the SUV of the boating world.

Trouble is they're beginning to look like Escalades, all blinged up.

I talked to a NT CC owner this summer in the Bahamas and this was his exact statement! He had 3-4 I/O go fasts, the latest being a 43V 700's and he didn't really need to go 100+ and found 60-70 is great so a new quad engine 39 NT with plenty of shade from the T-Top was perfect solution!

Hey......I own an Escalade

Please find me a camper top that doesn't look stupid on a performance boat.... The reason for the camper cover is to extend privacy and sleep area if/when needed. It wouldn't be on the boat unless I have plans of overnighting and wouldn't be in place while the boat is under power, like most camper covers..... It would only be used when needed.

CCs have their place and I can see why they're popular. Everyone has different needs and I get it and I am not bashing at all. My point was there is no way I would be sitting up front in big water!

Joey,

I do not believe I ever said "old man", hell I am getting up there.

Mike,

Need to rerig the engine bay and install everything.

Interesting thread.

I just bought my Formula the end of last October. All these factors that you guys are talking about were part of my decision. I am afflicted with the "go fast" gene, and so my first looks were at some serious go fast boats. The gf fully supported buying whatever I wanted, and I did look at some of the cc boats. In the end, I gave up some speed for a boat that fits MY usage. I've got a ton of room, goes quick (ok, not compared to the blown cats, but 50+) reliable, and has a comfy place to sleep and take a shower. I've had 4 couples on the boat for a nice easy sunset cruise, and plenty of room when all the women need to use the head. (Sorry, but every trip it's one of the wives/gfs that uses the head) Had 10 (including kids) on a couple times for the xmas parades. Seats 6 for dinner/drinking (at the dock). And I've used it as an "office" to do some work when I wanted to relax and be left alone. These were the important things to me, and the reason I bought the boat I did. Your mileage may vary.

Point is, there are quite a few boats in between the purist go fast boat and a fishing boat. Some of the cc boats are interesting hybrids. Less of an Escalade, more like an X5. Doesn't do anything perfectly, but does a lot of things real well.

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No, it wasn't you and you're "almost" as old as me...............lol

I'll be spending a lot of time this season on a 34 Nor-Tech CC with twin 300's at LOTO. Last 8 seasons were spent on a Sunny F-4 and a Formula 350 SS. Will be interesting to see if the CC is a nice middle ground between the two previous rides.

I like this CC

https://floridasportfishing.com/maga...en-fish-3.html

Didn't even know they made a cat CC.



For me I am very partial to Statement....... However not sure I can get into one at my point just yet. So we will see.

This is by far my favorite boat.

Nor-tech's 420 MC is a Beautiful boat that has Seating for everyone, Cabin, "Center console" so the sociability of this boat is a huge plus and last, this yellow one tops 100mph..

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g8...e_lead_big.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g8...ef3e4c457d.jpg

Shucks.....I forgot what pocket I left that $700k in.

Can you loan me it.....I promise.....I am good for it.

Mine is all around budget friendly. Twin Opti's will get 4-5 miles per gallon (cruise speed). Paid $35k on a trailer. She isn't new, but probably won't find anything else out there close to it for $35k.

http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps47ac097b.jpg

The blue/yellow stripe is coming off as soon as the weather breaks.

You can get 4-5 mpg? That's better then a Diesel.

What will something like that run speed wise?

Btw

Doesn't that one have a small cuddy up front?

The boats top speed is 65 when propped for it. I will be trying some different props in the spring, but right now it is propped for about 62-63. I mistyped, it is probably closer to 3.5-4 MPG running around 35-40 MPH. (I am basing this off of the previous owner and other information I have read in regards to theta boat and optimax 225s). Pete280 is the previous owner, and had it in salt water so I may have to prop it a bit different. The Opti's are very fuel efficient. The concept does have a small cuddy up front. It is basically a v-berth bed, with room for a port-a-potty underneath a cushion, Not much else. But that's all I need in a cuddy is a place to sleep... But this is why I have plans of a small camper top that will extend to, at least, the helm. Just to give a little more space when needed overnighting.

Showtime83 has a similar setup and has seen close to 70 in his, here in the Detroit River/Lake Erie...

On the plus side bodies are really easy to throw overboard.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SiVja0Dt2Z...00/dexter.jpeg

So here is the Miami Boat Show FPC Poker Run overhead shot at the docks.

Note all the CCs.........

Case closed.

Yellowfin
Invincible
Sea Vee
Contender
Sea Hunter
Midnight Express
MTI
Nortech
and more

I agree about the cleaning, and quad verado 300's use more fuel than twin 600SCI's and are slower, but Nortech will build you a CC with I/O's so will statement, Midnight Express...

Bull****, prove it.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...psa66d5ce7.png

My boat is heavier, bigger, and less efficient bottom than yours but I have diesels, no way you are getting 4mpg.

So let me get this straight..... You "case closed" a point about poker runs when people who want a sport CC repeatedly said they don't do poker runs........in this exact thread.

Thank god you build a great boat cause the common sense or two and two together isn't quite there.

If I am building a CC while like the I/O feature I really want the O/B in the shallows around the islands.

Nice looking Concept, love the all white classic look.

I like he kind of center console that the nor-dic-tech?
monte-carlo!!!!! is.

There are at least five in the pic, what was your point?

These guys ran the BVI poker run a couple of years ago. Too funny. Had to see it to believe it. I'm not sure if they got up on plane or not? Also not sure they know what a life jacket is but they sure were having fun.


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BVI poker run by bobthebuilder707, on Flickr

Only person I need to prove it to is myself, since I pay the fuel bill. But if you do some research you will find the Optimax is one of the most fuel efficient outboards made. Showtime83 has a 30' concept with same motors and he has seen similar fuel economy. Also read my follow up thread where I corrected myself by saying it was closer to 3.5-4 MPG. Sorry your much heavier, less efficient hull with heavy diesels get worse MPG than my 4800lb boat with light outboards. You are comparing two completely different animals. Your boat weighs almost 2x as much (9800lhs in the test I read online) and has a 10' beam and is 7' longer. Knowing you are seeing 2.3 MPG in that (test I read says 2.6...) I wouldn't be shocked to see over 4 MPG at cruise in mine..................

The 36' Concept with 3 optimax 250s sees aprox 2MPG at cruise speed. Again, mine is 6' shorter at least 1k lighter, 1 less motor and mine are 225s not 250s.

Gary I see you with the first 29 Sunsation with twin 300s!

Pat would you build a cc ??

I think he was trying to show that the CC's weren't the first to the dock.......as the faster boats usually are.

Yeah but didn't you admit a few pages back that you just bought this boat and haven't used it much? How about filling the tanks, go for 100 mile run, get back to the dock and refuel then do some math......Your post is very similar to the guys with diesel pickups sitting on 22.5's, with tons of performance mods and they brag they get 22-25 in city driving pulling a 10K trailer! :D..............I suspect they can't do simple math! :D :D

I am pretty sure, anyone buying a CC, wasn't planning on being first to the dock........ Besides, poker runs aren't races..... But that's for another thread.