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kmasso 08-14-2002 01:13 AM

Cigarette 42' Revolution Values
 
I have been shopping for a bargin on a 42' Revolution and would appreciate some input on the value of two boats that I am considering. One of the boats is a 1995 with triple 525SC Merc's / Bravo 1 Drives with 130 hours - boat is loaded with full cabin / v-berth and includes a 1995 myco trailer. The boat is currently listed on Dick Simon's website (www.dicksimon.com) for $169,900.00 but the boats owner has placed it on Ebay and it can be purchased for $100K. The other option is a 1991 Revolution with triple 750hp Hawks w/ new stelling headers and two #3' s and a #4 drive with six hours since rebuild on drives tranny's and motors. This boat also has a full cabin and trailer and can be purchased for $100K - it can be viewed at www.floridawebinfo.com/revolution42. Are either of these boats worth the money or should I forget about a Revolution and start looking for a bargin priced Top Gun? I am looking for a boat that I can use for a year and not really incurr much depreciation when I decide to move up to something newer. Any advice is appreciated.

sean stinson 08-14-2002 02:05 AM

Revolution
 
I personally know the boat at Dick Simon it was the original "Hard Candy" brochure boat. I also know the owner took pretty good care of it. To make a long story short pick the newer one, hell there even may be a chance that you can buy some more warranty on it, because it will still have better resale value than the 91.....The downside to this whole deal is that the Revolution was very popular in Europe but not in the states. Now the choice becomes strictly personal from this point on and you have to ask yourself "Do I like this hunk of glass or not?" if the answer is yes then write a check, if no then find something else. Always remember you're the one that has to ride in it. Hope you're not thoroughly confused now but a litle more aware.

Sean

Griff 08-14-2002 03:35 AM

I saw that Cig on ebay. That is one hell of a lot of boat for the money. I definately think the 95 for that kind of $$$$ is a better deal. It also is low hour and looks to have been well taken care of. Either one might be a tough resale, but IMHO, I think the 95 would be less difficult and would not depreciate as much or at all.

timucin 08-14-2002 05:28 AM

sorry but; revolution boats were nice ten years ago...
If I were you I would follow e-bay and wait for a new,better boat.
there are apache's scarab's on ebay starting from 50-60 K's

Miami 08-14-2002 08:40 AM

Not the best hull cig ever made. Center of gravity was a little off and they always required an unusal amout of tab to make them run straight and / or porpoise free.

Triples in that hull can be a nightmare on drives! Within a couple of years you can be the Bravo shops best friend!

Sean 08-14-2002 09:09 AM

I agree with Stinson that the newer hull would bring better resale down the road and the important thing is if you are happy with the boat...plus, if you want to be different, the Revolution is the way to go. However, if you're going to look at resale value down the road, looking for a Top Gun might be your best bet. Not much of a market for the Revolution as you can see by the prices.

Have I thoroughly confused you now?

Mike C 08-14-2002 11:57 AM

kmasso;
We also looked at both boats, until we finally realized it was just to much boat for what we do. Go with the new model, the boat is great in and out, but it will take alot of fuel to get her moving.

375stinger 08-25-2004 08:40 PM

Re: Cigarette 42' Revolution Values
 
do u know what happened to the 1991 with 750's , is it still for sale?

BLee 08-25-2004 08:57 PM

Re: Cigarette 42' Revolution Values
 

Originally Posted by kmasso
or should I forget about a Revolution and start looking for a bargin priced Top Gun? I am looking for a boat that I can use for a year and not really incurr much depreciation when I decide to move up to something newer. Any advice is appreciated.

Get the Top Gun. You'll own that Revolution forever, like it or not.

lucky strike 08-25-2004 08:58 PM

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For the same money you can have an early 90s Top Gun, use it for a year, and not have to GIVE it away when its time to sell......

thespy 08-25-2004 09:18 PM

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I have a friend with a nice 95 42' w/stg 575, # 3 , very low hours , his name is Tod
Call him at costal marine in fla, # 941 - 488 - 2222.

cuda 08-25-2004 10:34 PM

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I saw this one at a poker run this spring. I think they are georgeous boats. They are very distinctive. I like things that are a little different.


I saw it for sale on boat trader earlier this year. It seems it was like $125k or something.

Pretty lady with her pretty boat.

super termoli 08-26-2004 03:34 AM

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As Sean said, Revolutions were bigger news in Europe than in the U.S. As I always say, performance boaters are a stubborn, conservative bunch. And the Revolution does look different. I personally love it. You can actually see that a bit of design research went into things that are above waterline. However, resale will be a problem and this is why it's so much boat for the money. In terms of handling, I only ever got one ride in a Revolution. I cannot say it behaved badly but that one was mildly powered with triple 502s. However, it was slow and I had the impression that it would take a lot of power to really get it moving. So if you wanna go fast with your Revolution, you're likely to run into problems associated with heavy boats running big power triples: motors are frying everything in the engine compartment, including each other, it's gonna be chewing drives like they're out of fashion and expect some big gas bills.

At that point, you might as well be cool and get an Apache 47 :D

cig1988 08-26-2004 04:37 AM

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Not to mention there were problems with bulkheads on these boats. Get a gun.

Formula Outlaw 08-26-2004 07:05 AM

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I believe that Todd has sold his Revolution. He stated a while back it was heading to Italy and it's not at his shop any longer.

Jamie B. 08-26-2004 11:36 AM

Re: Cigarette 42' Revolution Values
 

Originally Posted by Miami
Not the best hull cig ever made. Center of gravity was a little off and they always required an unusal amout of tab to make them run straight and / or porpoise free.

Triples in that hull can be a nightmare on drives! Within a couple of years you can be the Bravo shops best friend!

Yep, and most true Cig people know this so the market to resell it to gets even smaller.

CIG3 08-26-2004 11:44 AM

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I personally love the design of the REVOLUTION. Be aware there were some problems with the early models but they were worked out. They seem to be holding their value in the 125k-155k range. TNT just sold a red side by side with 900's and 6's they had it for some time. You just have to find the right a@# for the seat

BLee 08-26-2004 11:58 AM

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I also hope that you are tall.

IDRPSTF 08-26-2004 12:06 PM

Re: Cigarette 42' Revolution Values
 
Like Sean, I know this boat very well. I have pulled the cover many times during my internship at DSM (That means nobody gets paid...the sarcasm never stops).
Anyhow, the boat shows very well and I believe Gill is still the current owner. $100K is is nice number on this boat, although as already stated, resale might take awhile at any price.
Best of luck!

cbdragon 08-26-2004 12:14 PM

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Wow! I lot of Revo knowledge. I'm impressed. cb

Sydwayz 08-26-2004 12:21 PM

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I would be afraid of being stuck on resale time. If I had the time and resources, I would buy the Revolution with the better engine and drive packages. Then purchase a stripped out TG or other hull that tickled my fancy, and transfer everything over; having an engine and drive package to spare. Then I would create my very own 42' Cigarette Jacuzzi/Pool in my backyard. Think about it, engine room as the jacuzzi; cockpit and cabin space as the entrance/lap-pool.

magnum27 08-26-2004 12:23 PM

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I always thought the revolution was a sharp looking boat. I still have the powerboat mag with "Hard Candy" in it and I believe it was also on the cover. Never been for a ride on one but still think it is a sharp boat.

Sydwayz 08-26-2004 12:24 PM

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HOLY CRAP... This thread is two years old.

thisistank 08-26-2004 12:54 PM

Re: Cigarette 42' Revolution Values
 
Considering this thread is two years old and the guy asking the original question is probably in the wind I don't know how much help this will be, but it is an interesting tid-bit.

Anyone see the Revolution with the flat deck and straight faring for sale at Lakecumberland marine? Interesting boat and I believe you can get it for at or under 100k

IDRPSTF 08-26-2004 01:02 PM

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Scary that it took someone that long to figure how old this thread is. No wonder it wasnt on the DSM site anymore!
Tank, email the new address [email protected]. Are you and Kelly going to be at the run? Is she bringing her sister? Shall I bring my Blue Facepaint?

dreamer 08-26-2004 03:56 PM

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i can get u a 99 gun full cabin for 130k t500efis

thisistank 08-26-2004 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by IDRPSTF
Tank, email the new address [email protected]. Are you and Kelly going to be at the run? Is she bringing her sister? Shall I bring my Blue Facepaint?

Whats up brother!!?? Yea, we'll be out there but Kelly's sister wont. It's Kelly's b-day so we'll be partying a bit :drink: Taking Bobbits new 40 Skater for a run on Friday then we're running with Gerrards (semperfi) buddy in Neely's old Tiger for the run. It's gonna be a kick a$$ poker run! You best get out there! I dropped you an email w/my number. Call when you get into town.

Tank

J-Bonz 08-27-2004 07:30 AM

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DREAMER,
That top gun still for sale at old river? Might have to stop down and take a look at it.


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