They did the same thing to Skater Spider-Man when Reggie started crying. They kept winning. Won't make a difference.

Lance Armstrong lots of talent but still had to

Still had to What???

There is an easier way to get around having this happen to your boat !!!!!!! Its called win by a little. Let others get to the pin first and slowly pick them off one by one. At the end just edge them out at the finish. Plus its great to watch. Beating everyone from the green flag to the checkered by half a lap is not fun to watch nor will you get racers coming back to race you. Having the control to not want to wax everyone is a whole different story. This strategy is probably out the window for them at this point LOL

totally agree, when i first started racing in the Batboats we would take all of them out periodically on the Ohio river where Chris kept them and run them one at a time and then match all of them to the slowest boat (although they were within a few mph anyway) at any rate it was a sh!t ton of fun racing nearly identical boats. I use to love letting everyone else scramble to be the first to the pin then pick them off one at a time (if i could) I cant imagine how boring it would be to zip to the front every time and stay there. Don't get me wrong, i commend the Doc and crew for building a fantastic piece and i do agree its important to advance technology/design but that time has come and gone for a lot of classes. In SVL i think with the fleet as it is its more important to preserve parity (i know i know easier said then done) Still my favorite class along with SC.

SBI must have hired someone away from NASCAR or at least sought there advice b/c this sounds all too familiar to me. Been living it for 20+ yrs.
NASCAR tells the team owners, drivers & competitors that it is about the FANS & providing them a good show, PERIOD!!
Question them some more & they remind you what sport afforded you your $1M motorcoach & private jet :poopoo:

hey didn't this happen when there was factory classes ???? now where are the factory classes

There are two things to consider here. They may have thought of that strategy but OL want's their boat a half lap out. Why wouldn't they? That helps them sell boats. Second, What's the say that holding it a half lap out is all that it had? For all we know there may still be plenty left in the boat. I see it all the time in the world of NHRA. You don't have to look farther than the HD P.S.B. team so see that scenario.

Well sounds easy enough fix, If they are not cheating which seems to be how the other teams feel then they can swap motors with another team in the class.
Now let everyone see if they can still win, see if it is all hull or all motor that has them on top.

As for the weight increase they can do a check on the boat's CG and specify that as the fixed location for the weight.

I'll hold my opinion back until I see another OL on the course, or until Doc sells his (less top secret power of course) and it ends up in the back of the pack just as the Fountain did

Was the Fountain sold sans power ? Could it be the talent in the cockpit making the OL so far ahead of the pack ? Wasn't there rules at one time that added weight to boats with additional steps? Did that go away now ? I thought that was part of what held back a couple other boats from coming on the scene as quickly as they could ? All I see in the sbi rule book now is 4750 lbs.

In SBI any penalty is a time penalty, therefore SBI's own scoring system encourages you to win by as much time as you can. That's why in every class you never see the leader holding back to put on a "show" because to us it is a race not a "show". If SBI wants to pay teams to put on their show I'm sure they could find plenty in the fleet who would be happy to do so, but not the teams that come to win. The winnings from a race don't cover 1/10 th of the cost, the only reward is the WIN not another wood plaque and checker flag. The Snowy Mountain Brewery Team goes to every race prepared to win with a boat, two motors, three drives, 15 props, that all meet the SBI rules TO THE LETTER.

Dan,What might be a way to shut everyone up would be to let another team use your spare motor. Better yet have them both in the back of the truck and let someone else pick the one they want to borrow and you install the other one in yours. it only take's about 2-3 hours at best to install at the race. Go out and whip them and no one should say anything after that.

The winnings from a well populated race with a large boat count may cover 1/10th the cost and then some for other teams. You can't make that as a blanket statement. That is why some people get frazzled when they see what many believe to be a jumped start. That doesn't matter if the boat and team has everything on the planet and meet the sbi rules, it is a racing infraction. I don't doubt for one minute the boat is a bad ass, I just wish it could be shown as a bad ass without any controversy. I also don't think that 250 lbs will kill this boat, I wonder how much fuel the boat has capacity for, and how they usually run it. I would assume its allready been tested with that kind of weight, and will not hinder it much if any.

Not to start a Riot, and a totally different boat, But was that Aluminum Flywheel in the SBI Rules??

Bilgerat, Which 93 Corsa Raceboat do you have?? Just wondering

It was originally " Hogs Breath " has also raced as Mountain dew, and more recently as Bounty Hunter, I actually raced against it in 2007 in St.Clair. Just so happened it came for sale in near by St. Louis area. So I was able to get it. Its super cool, and a fellow in the northeast had put in a new transom and fuel tank, before the guy in St.Louis bought it. It just needs love. I have only had an aluminum dash made and started working on an engine hatch, and have since transferred my efforts into a real rotten 22 velocity to go w an outboard in Class 7. For now thats all i may be able to afford. I will get back on the corsa later.

Awesome Boat :) I Throttled it for Jim Arvis As Hardcore & Mountain Dew for 2 1/2+ yrs. I was hoping that's the one you got.. PM Tomorrow some time, I don't want to derail this thread any more....

Its like anything else... You bang 100 chicks, your just one of the guys...you suck one d@#k and your a c$%ksucker for life. The aluminum fly wheel, the start in st claire... The black cloud is going to follow you wherever you go, the rumours, enuendo, acusations and lack of trust will always be there. Doesnt matter if your the best their ever was or will be, once you put on that scarlet letter, no body is ever gonna believe you won it on talent alone.

If the class minimum is 4,750 lbs (now 5,000 lbs for the OL), does anyone how how much weight they were having to add to the boat to meet the 4,750 min weight?

Being a carbon epoxy layup (I'm assuming), I would think that OL weighs a lot less than the competition to begin with. Not only is the bottom design slick as ****, the hull is probably more rigid as well, and being able to add the required weight exactly where you want it is a very nice problem to have.

Having to meet a higher min weight requirement than everyone else because you're boat and crew is too good just goes to show there are plenty of issues in SBI. Regardless, I don't think adding an additional 250 will handicap SMB enough to alter the outcome on the podium.

However, isn't it interesting that no one could make that boat duplicate the same speed in any conditions after the sale? Me thinks you can make even a brick fast if you add enough horsepower. Especially if it could race withought fear of a DQ

You might want to check some lap times there Sport. The SMB boat was setting some blistering lap times the first few laps. After they stretched out a lead of 30+ seconds they slowed down dramaticly, holding that lead for the rest of the race. So much for your "you never see a leader holding back" bull****