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ActiveFun 05-22-2014 10:43 AM

85 Foot Yacht Sinks At Launch
 
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/8...ngton-23809748

raisingkane 05-22-2014 12:42 PM

1 Attachment(s)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]523701[/ATTACH]

wannabe 05-22-2014 02:07 PM

Hmmmm... I think a naval architect made a miscalculation. If that thing rolled while being launched it has some serious stability issues.

Wannabe

ChrisK 05-22-2014 02:16 PM

I read somewhere an architect working in the project had serious concerns over stability, and when he issued a memo over it, was let go a short time later from the project. Guess he was right.

Couginitnordic 05-22-2014 02:21 PM

Our company did the sound system. We told them not to add the extra subwoofers as the boat would be too top heavy....Just Kidding. One of our guys that worked on the design said that the ramp that they were using to launch had a large hole that the tires fell into. By the time they tried to adjust the ballast it was too late. The stabilizers where on the ground and the boat tipped. Lots of money wasted.

Wobble 05-22-2014 02:37 PM

Glad I'm not the only one that forgets the plug :drink:

Young Performance 05-22-2014 02:40 PM

Somebody's gonna be looking for a new job.

Jupiter Sunsation 05-22-2014 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 4126503)
Somebody's gonna be looking for a new job.

Sadly Northern Marine closed its doors shortly after the accident according to YachtForums.com

I suspect pending litigation was going to get expensive anyway......that was a 10mm boat.

Jupiter Sunsation 05-22-2014 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by ChrisK (Post 4126498)
I read somewhere an architect working in the project had serious concerns over stability, and when he issued a memo over it, was let go a short time later from the project. Guess he was right.

Guy claimed to be a Captain "of unlimited tonnage ships" and may have been a Jim Darr character of the yacht business. Others have disputed if he even worked on the boat, what his credentials were, etc. He did post a note on his blog about the design flaws after the sinking.

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/ge...-launch-2.html
Scroll down to see pics, read the report

offshore312 05-22-2014 04:32 PM

If they used a side slide to launch that thing, they likely swamped it in the launch which would explain the roll over. I'm thinking they would have been much further ahead to have gotten the cranes and slings to launch it....wouldn't have been a need to retrieve it.

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 05-22-2014 05:24 PM

It's simple math. "Learn" to build this yacht, sink it and get the insurance money. It's a decent paycheck. Then build a second one for less cost as the learning curve is done, and sell it to the client for a ton of money. Now close the doors and open under a new name. Two for the price of one.

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 05-22-2014 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by raisingkane (Post 4126430)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]523701[/ATTACH]

"Submersible Fire Boat"

FIXX 05-22-2014 05:29 PM

90 foot
 

Originally Posted by ActiveFun (Post 4126354)

gee,,lets lower a 100 ton yacht down a crooked launch ramp and let gravity take over... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEBJjsdTyWY#t=309

Jupiter Sunsation 05-23-2014 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by 1 MAIDEN AMERICA (Post 4126576)
It's simple math. "Learn" to build this yacht, sink it and get the insurance money. It's a decent paycheck. Then build a second one for less cost as the learning curve is done, and sell it to the client for a ton of money. Now close the doors and open under a new name. Two for the price of one.

This only works if:

1. Insurance company pays.....10mm is a tough check to write (big loss) and plenty of excuses not to pay
2. New Company- When customers see a company bail on liability once, doesn't make them warm and fuzzy to sign up for a 10mm build with a new company. Vendors will be hesitant to do business with the new company as well.
3. Hull failures- tough to get orders on a new yacht when the first one didn't float. Notice there isn't a Titanic II in the cruise industry!

Crude Intentions 05-23-2014 07:24 AM

After seeing the video that was all ramp and launch related. Stability only counts when vessel is actually floating. They should have stopped going backwards long before it tipped over and tried to realign

Jupiter Sunsation 05-23-2014 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4126821)
After seeing the video that was all ramp and launch related. Stability only counts when vessel is actually floating. They should have stopped going backwards long before it tipped over and tried to realign

Not sure they had the ability to pull that vessel back up the ramp......looked like a gravity powered exercise!

Wobble 05-23-2014 07:44 AM

The vid makes it pretty clear that it was not so much a stability issue, it looks to me like the whole trailer flipped into the hole before the hull could displace enough water to right it self. What a shame.

Now there was no excuse for them not knowing the condition of their own ramp. That is the part that blows me away.

JWay 05-23-2014 10:28 AM

How in the hell can you not know the integrity of the ramp you are using to launch a 10 million dollar boat. On a side note the guy in the video with his dog kind of remind me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD-j4eIjQ5c :lolhit:

Wobble 05-23-2014 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by JWay (Post 4126914)
How in the hell can you not know the integrity of the ramp you are using to launch a 10 million dollar boat. On a side note the guy in the video with his dog kind of remind me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD-j4eIjQ5c :lolhit:

Well I know which one I'd rather stroke

GO4BROKE 05-24-2014 07:15 AM

That boat would have gone down in the ocean if it hadn't there. Looks to me like the ramp had it leaning past its ability to right itself. As soon as it floated free of the trailer it rolled over. If it had been launched straight it would probably have been ok, then first time out in some rough seas it would have gone down. Not much draft or beam for such a tall boat. It would have been dependent on ballast and stabilizers. $10mm of junk.

ChrisK 05-24-2014 08:03 AM

Surprised no one else has said this...

Was this one of geno's new rides??

Indy 05-24-2014 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by GO4BROKE (Post 4127220)
That boat would have gone down in the ocean if it hadn't there. Looks to me like the ramp had it leaning past its ability to right itself. As soon as it floated free of the trailer it rolled over. If it had been launched straight it would probably have been ok, then first time out in some rough seas it would have gone down. Not much draft or beam for such a tall boat. It would have been dependent on ballast and stabilizers. $10mm of junk.

Kind of seems that way doesn't it.

bck 05-24-2014 09:41 AM

The latest on the other thread is that it has been re-floated and is incapable of remaining upright without support from the crane.

FIXX 05-24-2014 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4127278)
The latest on the other thread is that it has been re-floated and is incapable of remaining upright without support from the crane.

yhey took to much water out of it lol..

thisistank 05-24-2014 04:08 PM

Is the guy in the video talking about it going to cry? He acts like he's watching the Kennedy assassination or the Hindenburg disaster.

GO4BROKE 05-24-2014 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4127278)
The latest on the other thread is that it has been re-floated and is incapable of remaining upright without support from the crane.

For sale: $10 million yacht, free crane included.

hadleycat 05-24-2014 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by GO4BROKE (Post 4127220)
That boat would have gone down in the ocean if it hadn't there. Looks to me like the ramp had it leaning past its ability to right itself. As soon as it floated free of the trailer it rolled over. If it had been launched straight it would probably have been ok, then first time out in some rough seas it would have gone down. Not much draft or beam for such a tall boat. It would have been dependent on ballast and stabilizers. $10mm of junk.

That is exactly what I was thinking

Greatguy66 05-24-2014 08:44 PM

Is there a crane that can lift that thing????If so why can't it assist in the launch:confused:

Wobble 05-24-2014 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by Greatguy66 (Post 4127401)
Is there a crane that can lift that thing????If so why can't it assist in the launch:confused:

I saw that it is already back on dry land. From what I read all the lead ballast was not in. nobody seems to know why.

Comanche3Six 05-24-2014 10:21 PM

Geezus!

mptrimshop 05-25-2014 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4127355)
Is the guy in the video talking about it going to cry? He acts like he's watching the Kennedy assassination or the Hindenburg disaster.

I tought I was only one that noticed that guy was a tool bag.

sheperd 05-25-2014 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by mptrimshop (Post 4127447)
I tought I was only one that noticed that guy was a tool bag.

X2. It's just a boat dude!

Indy 05-25-2014 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by mptrimshop (Post 4127447)
I tought I was only one that noticed that guy was a tool bag.

He's a guy? :p

ItsPeanut 05-25-2014 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4127355)
Is the guy in the video talking about it going to cry? He acts like he's watching the Kennedy assassination or the Hindenburg disaster.

Anyone know the link to this vid? Can't find it.

bck 05-25-2014 09:38 AM

I'd check the first page of this thread.

offshore312 05-25-2014 01:02 PM

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/at...ch-photo-2-jpg
Here's a link to the vessel as it now sits. It will be very interesting to see what happens next.

ChrisK 07-07-2015 07:50 PM

Just ran across this video while falling into that "dark place" I always seem to find myself going down.... Its almost looks like the same boat, and I thought of this thread instantly...

https://youtu.be/zcLbRk3sdQc

boostbros 07-08-2015 10:15 AM

a beautiful boat that could easily be repaired anyone know its current status?

SB 07-08-2015 10:30 AM

Some people think 3500 Dually's can back anything down the ramp.


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