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tjmitchem 06-06-2014 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4133296)
It is beyond me why the officer could not jump in and save this poor kid. There should have been 2 officers on that boat.

Apparently, the officer did jump in. No idea on the veracity of the info. Just something I saw.

Such a tragedy.

SVL-WARLOCK 06-06-2014 06:00 AM

No matter what he was in police custody. At that point the cop was responsible for his care. He died in his care. The cop should at least be fired and prob jailed for murder. Makes me sick.

rchuntlsl 06-07-2014 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by keegan (Post 4133568)
I will own you tomorrow on this...your hi-po friend is probably the one who my friend, family, brother, sister, neighbor, was with when he threw himself out of the boat while behind the wheel while WP was "training" him to be on the same team. FYI - WP went thru exact same training as hi-po, PLUS all the water training on top. Did your hi-po BFF have to swim a mile in full gear, no PFD, in under 10 mins? (Don't quote me on that) WP > HP. Sorry. But now they are all in the same and you got guys that have never driven a boat in their life patrolling the water......

Uhhhh, were you drunk when you wrote this??? I guess I didn't get owned today by you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

LoveFastBoats 06-13-2014 07:35 AM

I found this on kmaland.com this morning...

(Lake of the Ozarks) -- Officials with the Missouri State Patrol say they expect their investigation into the death of a 20-year-old Iowa man to take at least two more weeks. Brandon Ellingson had been arrested and was in custody and handcuffed when he either jumped or fell overboard at the Lake of the Ozarks May 31st. Ellingsons life jacket came off and he drowned. The patrol says the findings of that investigation will be sent to the Camden County prosecutors office to determine if there was any criminal negligence on the part of the trooper.

Greatguy66 06-13-2014 07:49 AM

We all know we like law enforcement when in trouble or hurt!But when they hassle people and disrupt them your opinion changes very fast!I blame the police quotas that force the police to bring $$$?Seems like helping people does not generate revenue so it's being put on the shelf?My 02!How many people were in distress while they were arresting this kid for drinking?????:readinghelp:

Knot 4 Me 06-13-2014 07:57 AM

Would love to see as a result of this tragedy either A. Two troopers per boat if they insist on cuffing behind the back or B. Cuff in front if one tropper only per boat. At least with the cuffs in front you have the ability to use your arms to help stay afloat.

TCBoss302 06-13-2014 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4137223)
Would love to see as a result of this tragedy either A. Two troopers per boat if they insist on cuffing behind the back or B. Cuff in front if one tropper only per boat. At least with the cuffs in front you have the ability to use your arms to help stay afloat.

Or just use a REAL life jacket.......problem solved.

Knot 4 Me 06-13-2014 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by TCBoss302 (Post 4137237)
Or just use a REAL life jacket.......problem solved.

In addition to a properly secured, appropriate life jacket.

RollWithIt 06-15-2014 12:01 PM

Greatguy, to play devil's advocate, how many people could have been in distress had the drunk guy hit another boat?

I had the oportunity to speak with a local marine officer here in Pennsylvania about this incident. He was saying the transport guidelines here are very strict on how to secure somebody. Plus, you always have at least two officers on each boat. What he does is have to person put their own life jacket on before they even get onto his patrol boat and make sure it is properly secured. Then, if he has to arrest them, they are cuffed in front. The person is then sat on the front of the boat with the second officer there to keep them from standing up or jumping overboard.

With the vest coming off in the Missouri case, it definately looks like some type of negligence occurred. It will be interesting to see to what level it occurred at and if charges would come about.

skydog 06-15-2014 04:15 PM

So so sad......... life vest should not come off. If its right size and put on right! Bad bad.....:( :(


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