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sicktrickrick 09-21-2014 11:23 AM

Newbie question???
 
Hello fresh and green as can be so don't hate on me too much. Getting into the powerboat scene. I've been researching and chasing and trying to figure out how or what makes a big rooster tail. I'm sure there's geometry algebra X factors The sun lining up with moon just right and all that. But there has to be a simple answer and I can't seem to get I'm very new and not hip on all the different model numbers and drive names and what not. But I understand arneson drives are the rooster king and are very pricy. But isn't there a simple set up like for instance. Bravo xr drive with extension boxes and A certain prop will make a 35 or 38' boat shoot a rooster. Or different lowers will make it. I understand that extension boxes are to put the drives farther back for speed and they effect boats differently. But I feel like shooting a rooter tail should be fairly simple. I'm not talking about going 100 mph. I'm talking cruising at 50 shooting a nice tail in the air. Can someone help explain to me the dos and donts.
Thanks guys

commandersander 09-21-2014 11:28 AM

Big hp, high x.

Griff 09-21-2014 01:11 PM

Big rooster tails happen with surface drives like the NXT's, SSM 6's are Arenesons. Rinning Bravo's like surface drives will break off a lot of prop blades.

Too Stroked 09-21-2014 01:21 PM

In addition to the correct answers / advice that has been offered here, let me add my 2 cents. If you have a "normal" (non-high performance) boat and you want to throw a big rooster tail, all you're going to do is tear up parts. That's because in order to throw one with a normal X dimension, prop and power, you're going to have to over trim your drive. That will beat the hell out of your U-joints. Besides, all of us who legitimately throw a good sized rooster because of a correct high performance setup are going to mock the hell out of you for showing off as you destroy your out drive.

Craney 09-21-2014 01:41 PM

If you want a big rooster tail buy a jet boat.

huskyrider 09-21-2014 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4191143)
If you wont a big rooster tail buy a jet boat.

X2

See ya,
Kelly

phil_p999 09-21-2014 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4191143)
If you want a big rooster tail buy a jet boat.

X3
It will be the cheapest way to achieve your goal! :party-smiley-020:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAR0dw-bmdY

Jonesyfxr 09-21-2014 04:39 PM

What's that hose I've seen sitting behind the out drives aiming straight into the air?

sicktrickrick 09-21-2014 05:19 PM

Lol Def not gonna get a jet boat. Just didn't know if anyone has or knows what' setup worked for them. I'll keep asking. Maybe some one can help

sicktrickrick 09-21-2014 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4191123)
Big rooster tails happen with surface drives like the NXT's, SSM 6's are Arenesons. Rinning Bravo's like surface drives will break off a lot of prop blades.

Ok I understand that. And that's big money right there. So just putting extention boxes on won't raise your x???? And correct me if I'm wrong here but are the different lowers raised?? So the prop is closer to the top of the water???

Too Stroked 09-21-2014 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by sicktrickrick (Post 4191197)
Ok I understand that. And that's big money right there. So just putting extention boxes on won't raise your x???? And correct me if I'm wrong here but are the different lowers raised?? So the prop is closer to the top of the water???

Nope. In fact the further you go back, the more you have to go up. That's because as water exits your transom, it comes back up on an angle. So if you just extend outward, your prop is actually deeper in the water.

rfgonzo 09-21-2014 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4191123)
Big rooster tails happen with surface drives like the NXT's, SSM 6's are Arenesons. Rinning Bravo's like surface drives will break off a lot of prop blades.

Big money or not, this is the answer to your question.

RT930turbo 09-22-2014 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Jonesyfxr (Post 4191182)
What's that hose I've seen sitting behind the out drives aiming straight into the air?

It aireates the props to help get them spinning and push the boat on plane. Takes a lot to get a big surfacing prop spinning when it is comepletely submurged. Once on plane the tube do nothing as they are above the water level.

stimleck 09-22-2014 08:09 AM

is there a tell tale sign that the trim is too high? with some props they stay hooked up with quite a bit of trim

Originally Posted by Too Stroked (Post 4191127)
In addition to the correct answers / advice that has been offered here, let me add my 2 cents. If you have a "normal" (non-high performance) boat and you want to throw a big rooster tail, all you're going to do is tear up parts. That's because in order to throw one with a normal X dimension, prop and power, you're going to have to over trim your drive. That will beat the hell out of your U-joints. Besides, all of us who legitimately throw a good sized rooster because of a correct high performance setup are going to mock the hell out of you for showing off as you destroy your out drive.


Too Stroked 09-22-2014 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4191347)
is there a tell tale sign that the trim is too high? with some props they stay hooked up with quite a bit of trim

Yes. That would be the bow flopping around like a hooker in heat.

Kelly O 09-22-2014 06:44 PM

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Three #6 boats, both Fountains trimmed all the way in to throw these tails at around 60 mph.

jstrahn 09-22-2014 11:21 PM

Buy some turn down tips, install them upside down. Full time "rooster tail" :lolhit:

ICDEDPPL 09-22-2014 11:35 PM

http://33outlaw.zenfolio.com/img/s2/...97980457-4.jpg

#4`s, extension boxes, trimmed to 8, 80mph there, propshaft set up even with bottom, 4 blades, turning OUT




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWh_ZKb_w10


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