Phantom 25 - 1985 model - total overhaul
 

Hi,

This summer my ol Phantom 25 was hit by a water scooter while being parked for the night. It was in good condition with original gelcoat, and after it was a 2 meter hole in it. Lucky enough it did not sink.

So the boat will be total overhauled. New paint with original scheme and colors. New stainless rubrail. New lanterns, cleats, teak lists, etc etc.

I will post some pictures along the way. Good karma it going to be shiny and nice!

Cheers Toffen

http://malaysia.craigslist.org/bod/4684269560.html

Stick with the white hull:ernaehrung004:

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do you have pics of the hole on the side?

Hi!

The hull will be painted with the same colors and design. They are sanding the whole boat now and removed all gear.

The Malaysian boat is not an original. Its a Malta copy in fact. Phantom was made by Steve Baker in UK from the 70 ties to early 2000. Well known offshore regatta hull.

Enclosed a picture of the damage.

Cheers Toffen

Nice looking boat !

That thing looks NARROW ! Whats the beam on that?

That motor looks HUGE on the back....which is awesome.

Hi!

Thanks :)

The beam is 5,5 feet only. The boat lenght is 25 feet.

Phantom was a typical a offshore race hull in UK from late 70ties to early 90 ties.Then raced with twin Merc XR2's.

I have been through 1 x Johnson GT 3,6 V8 Offshore Race engine, Mercury Promax 300 SVS, twin Mercury 2.5 EFI SS engines with PCU's (300 hp each) - and now the best engine of them all - Verado 350 Sci. Hopefully we see a 400 hp soon!

Cheeers, Toffen

Glad to see you still have her Toffen and that you are doing well. I remember when you repowered to the 350SCI. I sold my Old T-Bred (Velocity) with twin 260s' and put the 260s' on a Talon cat. Take care.

Bob

Sorry to see the damage, at least nobody was hurt and the boat didn't sink.

Question, how is that Verado working out for offshore duty without a sportmaster lower?

HI!

Nice to hear from you Bob! Your T-Bred was awesome. Talon is a classic :)

I seriously considered to buy a second hand OL SV29, but have decided to keep the Phantom 25 for a while longer since we now redo her completely.

The Verado 350 sci has been a positive experience. I was a little doubtful since the weight is an extra 100 lbs and the lower unit is big as a submarine. However, the result has been very good. Great balance with a Stainless Marine Gorilla Jack, and fantastic milage. 4,7 MPG at 4,000 rpms and 49 mph cruise. Top speed 81-82 mph which is up 6 mph from the Promax 300 SVS (Brucato smiling jack). However, I am still working on the props since the Rev4 prop break loose if I drive it high. Lots of water pressure. Will test 5bl high rake prop next summer.

Cheeers, Toffen

The Steve Baker built phantoms are phenomenal race boats 16 ft 18ft 20ft 21ft 23ft and my fav the the 25 ft just looks like a missile they also did a 28.ft they can take plenty of punishment In rough seas without falling apart .

Beautiful boat. Is there a connection with the current Will Smith Phantoms?

Padraig

No the Steve Baker built boat were built here in England not far from where I used to live .

Hi!

Some pictures at last for the overhaul of the 1985 Phantom 25 after the collison last summer.

Will send more pictures when the new ss rubrail is mounted, new hardware, etc.

And hopefully soon a new 400R :)

Cheeers, Toffen

How's the phantom doing , I know it's been a while but are you still running her ?

Hi!

Nice to hear from you :)

Yes, I am preparing several things with her this winter :)

She need to be repainted as the paint got blisters below the waterline. I am using a different workshop this time.Thats for sure! I have also added a notch since last time as I lost some speed due to added weight up front as I strengthened the front deck.

The biggest investments are a new engine and interior. I have ordered a Verado 400R to be delivered in March. 20 inch midsection, Sportmaster lowers and cambered skeg. My interior is sent to US for redesign. I like Shelby interiors very much, so it will be something in that direction.

So the project never stops!

Thanks for asking :)

Cheeers, Toffen

Hi!

New interior next week and then off we go on water :)

Cheeers, Toffen

Toffen, please post your testing results. I don't think anyone has tried more power combos on a single hull :D

Will do!

Hi!

One week on water with the new set up, and I am a happy lad.

I use the same prop as I used on my 350 Sci. A reworked REV4 (cupped, thinned and shorter tube) 25 pitch.

Since I need to run the proshaft much higher than with the HD case, the jackplate is moved up 1,5 inches. This translates to more slip at cruise speed. Before I managed 48-49 mph at 4,000 rpms. Now the speed is more 47-48 mph. However, its better at 5,000 rpms. Before 61-62 mph. Now 60-61 mph. Top speed so far is 86 mph at 7,040 rpms. Last year with the more heavy foredeck was 81 mph on a good day. Mostly 80,3-80,7 mph. Here we managed 86 mph out of the box.

The Sportsmaster really need to be run high. If the propshaft is even with the bottom, the top speed is only 82 mph, and the steering torque is there in spades. However, move it up 0,75 inches, the speed goes instantly up to 85-86 mph. And the steering is precise and silky smooth. Its essential not to use positive trim. Max 2 degrees. More than that the slip increases and the transom bury itself. The Sportmaster acts like a plow.

The weather conditions has not been ideal lately. Heavy cross winds of 15 ms, and its not been possible to do wot runs. Since the 86 mph runs I have water sanded the bottom with 600 grit, straightened out some nicks, etc. The speed at 5,000 rpms picked up 1 mph. I also blocked all the pvs plugs. Although it should not mean anything. Trond Schou told me that blocking all should reduce the slip a little. Hopefully we will get the slip down from 10% to 9% with the better bottom and this little trick. 1% less slip is 1 mph :)

I see I need a prop with more diameter. maybe the Max5 could be the prop? Other suggestions? It suprised me that the Sportmaster created so good bowlift, and allowed the ol lady from 1984 to fly with no positive trim :) I think the potential is 88 mph.

Enclosed some pictures of the boat and new interior.

Cheeers, Toffen