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Originally Posted by hogie roll
(Post 4214616)
Needs more exhaust back pressure
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
(Post 4214640)
And stronger valve springs.
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Neat but mostly useless IMO. Ls7 heads are damned good as is. After market Ls7 heads are even better, I have an ETP/Mast headed 427 with a hydraulic roller and reasonable valve springs and thats 700hp so this thing needs make damn good power to make any sense. I'm guessing the mercury engine cost alot more than this.(and yes it can be built for marine duty for not too much more.) http://www.mastmotorsports.com/view.php?id=155&c=4&s=6
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Pretty neat but seems they are spending a lot of money for almost no reason.
As stated you could make right at or close to 700 on pump gas with a hydraulic roller cam. Be cool to see what they do with it though. |
This would have to be an improvement that someone other than mercury could use as currently mercury doesn't even offer an LS based engine.
As others have pointed out the current engines are really good so to justify the mercury pricing it really has to deliver something great. |
Its nice that mercury has joined the 21st century since nearly every other marine engine manufacturer ((PCM,Crusader,Volvo,Illmor,MarinePower) etc has been using LSx engines for years..All of them have engines that make 400 or more hp..No fancy heads, superchargers,etc..
But Mercury can not compete with them on the same engines because of the insane prices it charges boat manufacturers who use their engines so they come up with these uber expensive heads to make it seem like its "their" engine.. Look at the new V6 they came up with,, spent a ton of r&d to produce an engine more expensive than anyone elses base LSx motor yet making less hp and tq and using Mercury specific parts so they can rape you there later as well.. If it wasnt for the fact that the insane prices are hidden in the overall price of a new boat and paid with financing of said boat they would not be able to sell many engines.. |
Let's see. 15° - 12° degree valve angle (depending which you use), super effecient combustion chambers, raised intake runners, and mid 300 (to upper)cfm ports from the got damn factory.
For a small block ! Massive power from small cubes. Heads ready to take on big cubes. What the hell is not too like ? Wish they'd spend the money and do same type heads that fit the Chevy gen VI big block. Screw the 4 valvers. No $$$$ need. |
I believe Mercury stated a few years ago after they developed the new 1350 that they feel the weak point of the GM engines is the overhead valve train combinations. I'd assume this is why they may be developing a overhead cam set-up for the LS.
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Originally Posted by freshwaterfiend
(Post 4214479)
Except you can't punch the new 5.0's out to 400+ cubic inches like you can the LS's.
I know i'm going to get a bashing but seriously why the love for big heavy lifters and pushrods? Overhead cams and lighter valve train are soooo much better suited for the high rpm abuse we give our dinosaurs. You can buy an entire NEW 420hp / 400ft. lbs of torque weighing only 444lbs total ea, for what some guys put in their heads alone. The fuel saved while idling through no wake zones alone... http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=11829 or http://www.fordracingbyspeedshopdire...6007-a50xs.htm Some day.... Closed cooling and dry exhaust. |
Originally Posted by abmotorman
(Post 4217715)
I know i'm going to get a bashing but seriously why the love for big heavy lifters and pushrods? ........
You can buy an entire NEW 420hp / 400ft. lbs of torque weighing only 444lbs total ea, for what some guys put in their heads alone. The fuel saved while idling through no wake zones alone... to a manufacturer marinizing engines $1500 a unit is huge.. There is also the fact the coyote is approx 3" wider than big block chevy and approx 6"+ wider than a small block.. Thats a lot of real estate in a twin engine boat.. __________________________________________________ __________ GM LS2 Crate Engine Part No: GM-LS2CR Price: $5,899.00 The LS2 produces 400HP @ 6500 RPM and 400lbs/ft of torque @ 4400 RPM __________________________________________________ _____________ 5.0L 4V COYOTE 420 HP MUSTANG CRATE ENGINE M-6007-M50* Suggested Retail Price $7,399.00 420 horsepower @ 6500 rpm and 390 ft.-lb.+ of torque @ 4250 rpm |
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